Re: Latetes Slew of patches.
From: Joh N. (Yochanon_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 04/30/04
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:33:15 -0500
Steve Nielsen, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to
use, wrote:
<snip>
> There are GUI stability issues with all the major distros I have seen
> (Suse, Mandrake, Red Hat, Debian).
Oh? Examples or cites, please. I've and others I visit often who use Linux,
have no such thing(s) you're talking about here.
> There are miscompiled programs that
> need fixing and to really configure and maintain Linux one must
> inevitibly use the shell and run Linux commands because the utilities in
> the GUI are insufficient for many purposes.
What "programs"? What distro are you talking about that the maintenance of it
doesn't do its job? My distro I can do every single thing I want from GUI, and
it works just fine. Supply some 'facts' with your statements.
Nothing wrong with CLI now and again. Hell, look at all the answers to
questions in this NG that tell them to get to a CLI and "type this and type
that" etc. Getting into the registry and making changes is similar too, to CLI
work. Why haven't you mentioned these things about windows?
> Even the seemingly simple
> task of adding a disk drive requires editing fstab, creating a mount
> point, etc. and the average user will be totally lost without cnsulting
> documentation or seeking assistance from someone who knows how.
Again, not all distros is this necessary, but it is far simpler to do than it
is trying to do something in a windows' registry, then just two clicks on the
desktop (just like windows) and you've added an icon that does the
mounting/umounting for you...pretty simple. Why'd you have such a hard time
with it?
Also, again, look at all the answers in here telling people to RTFM, or are
"seeking assistance from someone who knows". Don't be a hypocrate.
> There
> are in fact some security vulnerabilites out of the box, too, though not
> nearly as many as in Windows, but I get an average of two to five alerts
> a month about them.
No one said any one OS is completely secure. Most distros have a firewall,
that is set up and started without any problems from a GUI.
The vulnerabilities you speak of, *usually* are confined to certain distro's.
There may be an alert out for 'pppd', but it will tell which distro it's for.
>
>> As for computer science...that's a specialized thing one takes college
>> courses
>> for...nothing needed by the average home user at all. Not a great message to
>> have told someone.
>
> You obviously missed my points; if the user cannot supply accurate
> information about their problem(s) it is absolutely useless, and average
> users DO need to realize that a computer will NOT continue to function
> properly if they don't take a logical approach to using and maintaining it.
I didn't miss any points at all. You supplied a point that had no basis to
even be said in your reply to the OP, re the 'computer science'.
Where did I say anything about your post other than the computer science part?
You missed the point, actually.
>
> Steve
Joh N.
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