Re: Microsoft XP spying
From: hermes (hermes_at_messenger.net)
Date: 04/27/04
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:49:48 -0500
Before the MVP (M$ Victim Poster) Hermes responded, Phil (purplehaz)
typed:
> hermes wrote:
>> Before the MVP (M$ Victim Poster) Hermes responded, Phil (purplehaz)
>> typed:
>>> First of all....... there is NO spyware in windows, including
>>> windows xp. This is a false tale perpetuated by the MS haters.
>>> Nothing EVER gets sent to ms. Windows update doesn't even send
>>> info, it just logs ip addresses and such, but EVERY website out
>>> there does this. So just take the thought of MS gathering info and
>>> sending it out, because it is just not true. Second....... real
>>> player has nothing to do with windows XP or Microsoft. I do know
>>> that real player sends usuage stats and server stats to its parent
>>> company in hopes to collect data to make the product better. I'd
>>> hardly call it spyware, but I'd also remove it just the same.
>>> Unless you frequent a site that uses real audio it isn't needed.
>>> Last......... to take care of your spyware problem.......It sounds
>>> like your computer is full of spyware, and this comes only from not
>>> practicing safe and secure computing habits.
>>> You've got spyware, adware, a trojan, a search engine hijacker, or a
>>> home page hijacker.
>>>
>>> Run these tools weekly
>>> spybot -- http://www.safer-networking.org/
>>> ad-aware -- http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
>>> CW Shredder --
>>> http://www.softpedia.com/public/scripts/downloadhero/10-17-150/
>>>
>>> steve wrote:
>>>> My new machine has XP and I understand that Microsoft is
>>>> still getting away with taking stealing information from
>>>> my compouter and sending it there offices. Does
>>>> RealPlayer do the same thing. I jumped form 98 to XP and
>>>> my experience has been that one of the first things to do
>>>> is to uninstall or never install RealPlayer.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a solution to disable this spyware or catch them
>>>> in the act.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>
>> Phil, this is why I believe M$ has spyware planted in 2000 sp3 and
>> XP, FYI.
>>
>> http://codemonkey.sunsite.dk/articles/bigopenwindowatyourxphouse.html
>
> Ya and I have a real ufo from another planet in my garage.
That's nice.
There is no
> national security programs in windows,
I agree. The site I linked to does not say there are any NS programs in
windows.
total false and made up by ms
> haters. I love the line that says if your planning an attack that it
> sends a message to ms. That's hilarious.
Yes, I agree it seems a bit excentric, but that doesn't mean it is
impossible. For example, Virus programs can detect new viruses and now even
pay extra attention the scripting languages and tools most often used to
write viruses such as vbscript. So it does not seem impossible.
First, why would ms want
> this info and what would they do with it? Wouldn't it be better to
> send the info to the FBI or NSA or Terrioist fighting groups?
I could think of several reasons they may want this info and I'm sure they
would want to forward it on to the FBI or proper authorities. Remember the
kid that made the blaster worm (I think it was the blaster worm). I bet
they would love to head things like that off.
Second
> how does this program know what your planning?
I don't know, but I know I don't trust M$!
Does it read minds
> too? Does it read your emails, and figure out what your doing? If it
> can figure out what your planning by what you do on your computer it
> has to be the most sophisticated software ever coded for windows. Why
> did it not alert ms and the us to the 9/11 attacks? Surely bin laden
> and saddam use windows(what else would they use). Why can't it figure
> out when some teen kid writes a virus and launches it? Just use
> common sense. It tells you this is totally bogus. And the last thing
> to tip you off to this being bogus is where is the proof? A paragraph
> that states something like this and shows no proof to back it up, is
> usually just someone looking for visitors to their website.
Did you follow any of the links provided on the website?
-- hermes DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties! http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html Windows XP crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that.
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