Re: Kell's corner and notification area

From: Jeff (jeff_at_falsepart.com)
Date: 03/24/04


Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:05:56 GMT

Dear Kelly

Sorry for taking up so much of your time. I cannot believe you are making
all this effort to help a total stranger. Thank you.
You are absolutely correct. The problem only happens when the desktop
"crashes" and restores itself, and I do use Auto-Logon.

I had disabled UPNP long ago (using Gibsons unpnp.exe utility) and now I
went ahead and disabled SSDP through Services.

Because I do have XP Home SP1, I went to Add Remove Programs\Windows
Components\Networking Services to uninstall Universal Plug and Play and
found that I had already done that.

Before going to the 2 patches you list, I tried the "acid test" by crashing
the desktop as you described and restarted it. That re-created the exactly
the problem I was having: some of the notification icons did not come back!

I therefore rebooted (to get back to scratch) and downloaded the 2 patches
you suggest. Before I run them I would like to ask a couple of questions:
1. What exactly do these patches do? Scary to run them without knowing that.
<grin>
2. Will the problem disappear if I did not use auto-logon?
3. I know what :-) means. What does :o) mean?

-- 
Jeff McPherson
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
jeff@falsepart.com
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eBzIufYEEHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Most welcome, Jeff and I see.  See if any of this applies in your case:
>
> Icons are missing or disappear, reappear:  This happens for most
Auto-Logon
> users.
>
> Methods/workarounds:  Log off and Log back on, password protect your
account
> or disable SSDP and uPNP Services.
>
> Disable SSDP and uPNP Services (Line 156)
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> Or if you are running XP SP1 uninstall UPnP from Add/Remove Windows
> Components.
>
> Hide or Show Inactive Icons in the Notification Area (Line 53)
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> Remove Past Items From the Notification Area (Line 53)
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> Once done, Open Task Manager, click the Processes tab, click Explorer.exe,
> and then click End Process. In Task Manager, click File, click New Task,
> type explorer, and then click OK.
>
> The "Past Items" values are written to the registry as part of the user
log
> off process. This is why it is necessary to "crash" Explorer, so the
system
> will re-read the new values, and not retain the old ones that are already
in
> memory from a reboot.
>
> If not, good luck and keep us posted.  :o)
>
> -- 
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
> "Jeff" <jeff@falsepart.com> wrote in message
> news:7qZ7c.1742$WC3.16510@ord-read.news.verio.net...
> > Thank you.
> >
> > I will keep my eyes open.  As I recall it, it is while using Explorer
that
> > this happens.  One of the icons that does not re-appear in the
> notification
> > area is one of XP's own: the icon that tells you whether you are
connected
> > to the internet (dial-up) and which on right clicking on it allows you
to
> > disconnect.  That is the icon I miss most when this happens because then
> the
> > only way I can disconnect is by clicking on the appropriate icon to go
> > offline in Outlook Express 6.
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Jeff McPherson
> > Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
> > jeff@falsepart.com
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG
> >
> > "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:OV7Tx0LEEHA.3424@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > David, made a brilliant point and it does come into play here.  Still
> not
> > > knowing exactly which programs they are, one primary candidate has
been
> > > Seti.
> > >
> > > And thanks for the smile, Jeff.  Would be nice, if true!  :o)
> > >
> > > I have seen this from explorer.exe restarting.  What you need to find
> out
> > is
> > > why it is doing so.  And also, this is the action set forth from
> removing
> > > Past Icons with programs that aren't written properly to maintain from
> > there
> > > on.  Meaning that they need to be restarted, etc.
> > >
> > > Try in order:
> > >
> > > 1.  Run the edit on line 157:
> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > >      Then wait for the next time.
> > > 2.  If no go, run the edit on line 62 (right hand side):
> > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > >      Then wait for the next time.
> > >
> > > Good luck and keep us posted.
> > > -- 
> > > All the Best,
> > > Kelly
> > >
> > > Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> > >
> > > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> > >
> > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jeff" <jeff@falsepart.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ACP7c.1740$WC3.16182@ord-read.news.verio.net...
> > > > Oh come on Kelly: you DO know everything there is to know about XP!!
> > > <grin>
> > > >
> > > > What happens is that after the laptop has been running for long
times,
> > > some
> > > > program (it varies) causes the desktop to "restart itself".  By
this,
> I
> > do
> > > > not mean that the laptop shuts down, but that the desktop icons all
> > > > disappear and then reappear (crash?). When that happens, SOME of the
> > icons
> > > > in the notification area do not reappear and will not reappear
unless
> I
> > > > reboot.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > >
> > > > Jeff McPherson
> > > > Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
> > > > jeff@falsepart.com
> > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG
> > > >
> > > > "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23h86fY%23DEHA.1600@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Note:  Some original posts are not attached in/with/along replies,
I
> > > > really
> > > > > don't remember each and every post I read (that vary between 12
and
> 24
> > > > hours
> > > > > apart): issues, facts and problems and suggest what I think may
> help,
> > I
> > > > > don't have the answer for everything related to XP (but do give an
> > > honest
> > > > > effort to troubleshoot it)....
> > > > >
> > > > > That said, what was/is the issue in detail other than the fact
that
> > they
> > > > > disappear?  Which specific programs, when does this happen, after
> > doing
> > > > what
> > > > > and for how long, after doing nothing, but only when you think to
> > > notice,
> > > > > when you look that way, when you go to exit the program(s) in
> > > > > question.........?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > All the Best,
> > > > > Kelly
> > > > >
> > > > > Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> > > > >
> > > > > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "GateKeeper" <GateKeeper@earth1ink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:OxNQjC3DEHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I see you still don't have an answer.  Neither do I.  Kelly even
> > sent
> > > > > > you a link to the very page you complained about, without an
> > > > explanation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi everybody
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Using XP Home.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am having a problem with some of the icons in my
notification
> > area
> > > > > > > "disappearing" after a while even though they are marked to
> > "Always
> > > > > show" in
> > > > > > > their behavior listing.  This disappearing only happens after
> the
> > PC
> > > > has
> > > > > > > been running for a while. The only way I can get them to
> reappear
> > is
> > > > to
> > > > > > > reboot the PC.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been to Kelly's corner at
> > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > > > and among the tweaks on that page are a number for the
> > notification
> > > > > area,
> > > > > > > but it is not clear which one is the one for my problem
because
> > > there
> > > > is
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > clear descriptions for the registry edits.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any suggestions as to what causes the notification icon
problem
> > how
> > > to
> > > > > solve
> > > > > > > this problem?
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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