Re: oem vs retail full version

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From: wojo (kwoyach53954_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 03/22/04 

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 03:15:46 GMT

Actually the piracy to price comment was mine but what I meant, even though
I didn't state it properly, was that I believe the prices wouldn't be as
high as they are if not for piracy and bootlegs. I do not expect the prices
to go down if the piracy goes down. That has already been proven to not be
the case since piracy is down.
Oh by the way Bruce, I'm on your side and agree with your comments about
Best Buy and CompUSA but I happen to like Circuit City, at least the ones in
my area.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@nospamcableone.net> wrote in message
news:105sfa31rlfu2d7@corp.supernews.com...
> Greetings --
>
> "myself" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.03.21.22.46.17.962742@none.invalid...
>>
>> Neither will eliminating piracy lower prices. Prices are set by what the
>> market
>> will bear. Eliminating piracy doesn't affect what consumers will pay. If
>> MS
>> won't lower their prices with $52 billion in the bank (not to mention the
>> tens
>> of billions more that Gates' and Balmer have reaped from Windows
>> consumers), what makes anyone think they would if they eliminated piracy?
>>
> I don't believe I made any such claim. After all, everytime there's a
> flare-up of violence in the Middle East, oil and gasoline prices
> skyrocket. Do those prices ever drop to their original level once the
> panic subsides? Nope. It's in the nature of any business to be greedy.
> I'm not saying it's right, but that is the way it is.
>
>>
>> You don't have to have 100% of the market to be a monopolist. Monopoly is
>> about
>> having enough control of the market to quash free-market competition. The
>> exact
>> share varies with the market but 90% is usually considered sufficient to
>> qualify as a monopoly. The Supreme Court and several state courts in
>> class-action lawsuits have already labeled MS a "monopoly".
>>
> A decision that was mostly overturned as soon as the next higher court
> got ahold of it. But I've never claimed that Microsoft was an "angel."
> They play hard-ball in the business world, and will push the limits
> whenever they think it's to their advantage. As will any other large
> corporation.
>
>>
>> Are you asserting that the average consumer would find Linux, Unix, or
>> FreeBSD
>> a viable alternative to Windows? And since they are forced to pay for
>> Windows
>> anyway to get a name-brand computer at a reputable computer store (Best
>> Buy,
>> CompUSA, Circuit City), why would they install a different OS?
>>
>
> If the "average consumer" weren't too intectually lazy and didn't
> expect his/her PC to be no more complicated than a toaster oven, all of
> these alternative OS's would be perfectly viable. It's not as if using a
> computer were rocket surgery.
>
> And do you really consider Best Buy, CompUSA, and Circuit City --
> arguably the three very worst places in the world to buy anything related
> to computers -- as "reputable computer stores?" You've really hurt your
> position there.
>
>> As for MacOS, Apple's operating systems run only on their own proprietary
>> and
>> relatively expensive hardware. It's not a realistic option for someone
>> who can
>> needs more hardware bang for their buck, or who already has a large
>> investment
>> in Intel hardware.
>>
>
> Yes, Apple is continually reliving Sony's BetaMax mistake. The company
> has no one to blame but itself for its miniscule market share.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
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