Re: MS DOS
From: zizz (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 03/14/04
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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 06:54:40 -0800
Don -
Who said it is, or has to be "real-mode".
Just type 'DOS' into Windows XP Help, and you'll
get instructions on how to make an MS-DOS Boot Disk,
and how to use it. For all practical purposes this
is a functional DOS, and is still a matter of semantics.
Windows XP thinks of it as DOS, I think of it as DOS, and
your response was disconnected nonsense.
zizz
.
>-----Original Message-----
>zizz wrote:
>> My apology Ken -
>> This is largely a matter of semantics.
>> DOS is not there - DOS functions are there.
>> Like taxi's in Chicago - There are no cabs made by
>> Checker Cab Co. But there is still a taxi company in
>> Chicago and it's named Checker. And like no DOS in XP,
>> it still gets you from point A to B via a Command line.
>> zizz
>
>This has absolutely nothing to do with semantics. It has
to do with real
>memory locations and the way those memory locations are
accessed.
>..
>In Chicago, there are no Cadillacs made by Ford.
>If XP WERE an automobile, it would be a family and
corporate transportation
>vehicle, not a taxi.
>Microsoft is not a taxi company, its a hardware and
software manufacturer.
>The command prompt in XP is not real-mode DOS.
>
>Donald McDaniel
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> zizz wrote:
>>>> Not very good advice Ken, for an MVP.
>>>> Lindsay is right, there is a Command Prompt available
>>>> as Rick also has pointed out. Sure looks like DOS, acts
>>>> like DOS, and does like DOS. So why not use it like DOS?
>>>> zizz
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> In news:999101c40940$88e718e0$a601280a@phx.gbl,
>>>>> Matt <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi does anyone know where the program MS-DOS is located
>>>>>> on Windows XP Home Edition? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The program MS-DOS does not exist on Window XP.
Unlike Windows 9X
>>>>> versions, Windows XP is not built on and does not
include DOS.
>>>>> That's one of the main reasons XP is much more stable and
>>>>> reliable than older versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> However XP does have DOS emulaton. You can open a
command prompt
>>>>> window by going to Start | Run and typing CMD. You
can run many
>>>>> (but not all) DOS commands and programs in that
command prompt
>>>>> window, and whatever it is that you want to do in
DOS, there's a
>>>>> good chance you can do it there.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>
>>> If YOU want to believe that MS-DOS exists on WindowsXP,
nothing is
>>> stopping you. However, the rest of us know that MS-DOS
does not
>>> exist on any NT-based OS. NT can run a command
interpreter, and
>>> does.
>> The major command
>>> interpreter for NT is "cmd.exe", a pure-32bit program.
Windows XP
>>> can also run a 16bit command interpreter, called
"command.exe".
>> Even this program,
>>> though it bears the same name as the MS-DOS command
interpreter, is
>>> not MS-DOS. IT is there for the purpose of running
16bit programs
>>> (mostly for the sake of compatibility with older
version of Windows
>>> or DOS.)
>>>
>>> However, to have MS-DOS, your memory has to be arranged
according to
>>> the MS-DOS architecture -- something which the NT
architecture is
>>> not. For instance, under MS-DOS, it is possible to
directly address
>>> video memory or printer ports. This is not possible
under any
>>> NT-based
>> OS, such as Windows
>>> XP. To address video memory or printer ports under
NT(or Windows
>>> XP), you must use standard Windows routines. The same
is true with
>>> addressing any other device. You must use standard
Windows routines.
>> You cannot use
>>> MS-DOS calls to address the installed devices.
>>>
>>> So the old saw about "if it looks like a duck, and
quacks like a
>>> duck, it must be a duck" does not hold true for XP's
"DOS" box.
>> Even though it looks
>>> like DOS, and will run some DOS programs, it is not DOS.
>>> --
>>> Donald L McDaniel
>>> Post all replies to the Newsgroup,
>>> so that all may be informed.
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>>>
>>> .
>
>--
>Donald L McDaniel
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