Re: Activation and reactivation and so on, and so on ...
From: purplehaz (software_at_for.me)
Date: 03/12/04
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:33:44 -0500
1 - Activation has never bothered me in this way, cause I don't charge by
the hour for my support. I always thought that support professionals that
charge by the hour are the ones doing the ripping off. Everything I do has a
charge no matter how long it takes. I don't necessarily charge for trouble
shooting, usually just for fixing it. It's not about the money for me, its
about fixing computers right the first time and not ripping the customer
off, like the local stores do.
2 - You should never reccomend that someone use pirated software. Any
support professional that does this IMO, is a poor businessman. Any legal
license they have for their xp is not a license for a downloaded pirate
version of xp pro, so no matter what its not right, against the eula, and
not ethical.
Ralph Malph wrote:
> Activation is an unacceptable pain. I recommend using only XP Pro. The
> getting a download of the XP Pro Corp edition, and use a key gen to
> generate a good key for it. It will never bug you about activating,
> and Microsoft will have gotten their money.
> I have had many a repair situation, as a systems engineer, where I
> have to swap out components to determine which ones are bad, and /or
> do multiple re-installs.I charge by the hour, and the customer get
> ripped off by MS due to the extra time, 10 to 20 mins per activation
> that I have to go through. The last time I had to do this I had to
> reactivate XP Home 10 times, and I had to do it via the phone as it
> quit allowing me to do it automatically after the 2nd time. This of
> course is ridiculous because a legitimate user will always say that
> they have the software installed on only one machine, which is what MS
> asks you during the activation phone call to make sure you are legit.
> Of course so will someone who is not legit, and MS can't tell the
> diff, and still has to activate it. This of course, make the whole
> process RIDICULAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!. So use the XP Pro Corp method, just
> make sure that you have bought a legitimate copy for each PC.
>
>
> Enjoy, and lets make it a major pain and expensive embarasment for MS
> to continue to require activation. I recomend suing them for time lost
> on repairs ect......Alright repair guys of the world, lets send them
> the BILLL !!!!
>
> Ralph Malph
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:28:19 -0500, "purplehaz" <software@for.me>
> wrote:
>
>> BigBears2 wrote:
>>> I agree with hate ms. I have also not moved to xp because of the
>>> activation hastle.
>>
>> What hassle. I have never had an activation problem or hassle and I
>> have activated probably 50 or so machines.
>>
>>> Sometimes because of incompatable programs I may
>>> do a LLF format 5 times in one day and do a one every six months to
>>> keep the system clean.
>>
>> With proper computer maintenance, security, patches, updated xp
>> compatable drivers, good surfing habits, and knowledge of good and
>> bad programs this is not necessary.
>>
>>> It has been my experiance that an repair
>>> instulation does not get rid of unwanted files and other types will
>>> not get rid of boot sector coruption, when I want a program and all
>>> it's files gone I mean gone.
>>
>> True, a repair install is not intended to get rid of any files. It
>> just fixes corrupted windows files. What's your point?
>>
>>> They say reativation is free and
>>> unlimited but it's not unlimited and if done over a certain amount
>>> you have to plead your case to some half baked phone person.
>>
>> It is unlimited and if you have to call it is automated or if you
>> have to talk to a person it a painless two minute call. The only
>> time you will have to call is if you change significant hardware or
>> its been less than 120 days since your last activation. If your
>> changing hardware and/or activating in less than 120 days frequently
>> you may want to look into a volume license of xp that has no
>> activation or become an oem. A normal user does not have the need to
>> activate this often.
>>
>>> I am
>>> sure at some point they will call you a lier and insist your
>>> activating on multiple machines or just a pirater and refuse to give
>>> you reactivation codes unless you buy another licence.
>>
>> How are you sure? Have you heard it happen? I have never been
>> refused. The only time you could get refused is if you have an oem
>> xp version and you transfered it to another computer, which is not
>> allowed.
>>
>>> Aslo a point
>>> everyone has missed "what happeneds to you when you need to
>>> reactivate and microsoft no longer supports the product activation?"
>>> forever is never for forever just try to get replacement disks for
>>> win 3.11 or windows 95a,b or c. The $50 per reactivation charge will
>>> be part of the xp replacement.
>>
>> When support for xp is gone the activation requirement will be taken
>> out of xp with a patch via windows update
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