Re: XP says "Kaye's Documents" but Win98 says "My Documents"
From: Parish (me_at_privacy.net)
Date: 02/18/04
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:18:17 +0000
Jack wrote:
> Whoa -- that is scary!
>
Too damn right; and here's something else about 8.3 aliases that is just
as worrying....
If you need to restore your files from a backup (you know, the sfae
copies you create religiously ;-) ) *there is no guarantee* that the 8.3
short-name aliases of the restored files is the same as those of the
original files!
That, and the command line/batch file problem is the reason I originally
disabled 8.3 alias creation - until I installed NAV2002.
Regards,
Parish
>
>
> "Parish" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:c0tu89$1bb0he$1@ID-206197.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:44:56 -0500, Jack wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, of course -- but since when can't Win 98 read more than 12
> characters
>> >> in a folder name? I mean it's strange that such is the case in this
>> >> particular situation.
>> >
>> > Long file names can be a strange beast. It wouldn't even crop up if
>> > networking wasn't involved. When setting up my home LAN, I got the
>> > impression that the limitation was actually on the WinXP side of things
>> > (vague memory of computer name being limited to 8 characters anyhow).
> Was
>> > suprised to read that the notification you saw referred to Win98.
>> >
>>
>> No, it's 98 and, believe it or not, NT that is limited to 12 chars.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q237791
>>
>> The above doesn't mention NT but the bottom of this page does:
>> http://www.winxpsolution.com/UnderstandSharedfolderXPPro.aspx
>>
>> Just a thought; 8.3 filenames are 11 chars + the dot - maybe that's
>> something to do with it?
>>
>> I do hope that in Longhorn MS will finally drop support for 8.3
>> filenames and all the hassles it brings.
>>
>> You can stop XP (and W2K) creating the 8.3 aliases by setting
>> NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation to 1 in
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem but even
>> some modern programs, such as Norton AV (at least NAV 2002) won't
>> install properly if you do.
>>
>> It can also be dangerous on the command line, especially in batch files:
>>
>> C:\usr\radan\msg>dir *1.std
>> Volume in drive C has no label.
>> Volume Serial Number is A00E-8176
>>
>> Directory of C:\usr\radan\msg
>>
>> 26/07/2002 11:34 3,311 ageneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:29 30,777 bgeneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:29 8,733 dgeneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:29 5,649 edithelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 10,667 igeneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 83,116 pgeneral0.STD
>> 24/10/2001 11:08 2,851 plisthelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 14,731 p_mdrhelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 4,885 p_ptnhelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 3,117 p_winhelp0.STD
>> 10 File(s) 167,837 bytes
>> 0 Dir(s) 49,012,477,952 bytes free
>>
>> So where are any files there that match '*1.std'???
>>
>> If we now try:
>>
>> C:\usr\radan\msg>dir /x *1.std
>> Volume in drive C has no label.
>> Volume Serial Number is A00E-8176
>>
>> Directory of C:\usr\radan\msg
>>
>> 26/07/2002 11:34 3,311 AGENER~1.STD ageneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:29 30,777 BGENER~1.STD bgeneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:29 8,733 DGENER~1.STD dgeneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:29 5,649 EDITHE~1.STD edithelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 10,667 IGENER~1.STD igeneral0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 83,116 PGENER~1.STD pgeneral0.STD
>> 24/10/2001 11:08 2,851 PLISTH~1.STD plisthelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 14,731 P_MDRH~1.STD p_mdrhelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 4,885 P_PTNH~1.STD p_ptnhelp0.STD
>> 26/07/2002 11:30 3,117 P_WINH~1.STD p_winhelp0.STD
>> 10 File(s) 167,837 bytes
>> 0 Dir(s) 49,012,477,952 bytes free
>>
>> Oh, look, the short names all end in '~1'. Good job that was 'DIR' not
>> 'DEL'!!! And yes, I have been bitten by that one (using DEL), that's how
>> I know about it, but it took bloody ages to find out why!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Parish
>>
>>
>
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