Re: 256 colors
From: Lex (LL)
Date: 07/01/04
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:10:32 +0100
Just tried them, but still no luck. I guess forgetting key combinations like
that shows I spend far too much time in DOS 6.22 (where I do a lot of my
work). Tried a few other common combinations of keys but no luck with those
either.
No abilities with display properties for changing the windows there.Anything
else you can think of?
I've tried browsing through a few more of the fixes with QfixApp, but
nothing much that appeals to me there. Oh and if you want my
ICQ/MSN/AIM/YIM/Email etc. to make it easier to try to solve just ask. I'm
quite happy to give them.
Ah, and I tried it on yet another machine (not mine) but came across the
same problem again. Figured it's always good to check.
"Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message news:40e45f46$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Hi Lex,
>
> Try pressing Shift (or Ctrl) + ENTER to get into Window mode.
> Look in Display Property / Settings / Advanced and see if there
> is an option for that available through the video card drivers, and
> check the game's documentation for a -windowed switch. GL! :-)
>
> --
> Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
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> "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
news:%23RSK8t5XEHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | Here's the real beauty. I'm having no luck forcing it into windowed
mode. It
> | seems impossible. I can run it through a shortcut to use normal window
> | rather than maximized, it still enters full screen.It's not a DOS game
so
> | there's no "screen" tab in the properties...so I'm not sure if this
seems
> | like a blindingly obvious question but how exactly can I force it into
> | Windowed mode? ( I tend not to use XP unless I have to so it may be
common
> | ignorance on my part ("_))
> |
> | And given that I probably haven't said it thusfar, I am very greatful
for
> | your help on this one ;)
> | "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message
news:40e45838@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> | > Hi Lex,
> | >
> | > If this is occurring in full screen mode, I would try forcing
> | > the game to play in windowed mode instead. HTH! :-)
> | >
> | > --
> | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | >
> | >
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> | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
> | rights.
> | > _________________________________________________________
> | >
> | > "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
news:OjxtRb5XEHA.2500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | > | Just to tell, I have still had no luck. Tried all the refresh rates
> | > | available for that monitor. Also it works with the standard rate in
> | Windows
> | > | 98 (same monitor).
> | > | I'm got the impression it was just the way this game was using the
256
> | color
> | > | display, but given that the hundreds of other games which require
256
> | color
> | > | all seem to work you'd think they all try to behave in the same way
> | ("_)..
> | > |
> | > | I'm still stuck with it. If anyone else has any
suggestions...then..post
> | and
> | > | I'll certainly try them. For the moment I just recommended to the
user
> | to
> | > | load up VMWare or VirtualPC with Windows 98 ("_) His computer should
be
> | > | powerful enough for it...I think.
> | > | "Phil" <philk0spamb@home.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:ez1cAG5XEHA.2840@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > | > I'm wondering if it's a refresh rate problem, where the monitor
cannot
> | run
> | > | > at the combined rate and resolution that it is being asked to when
the
> | > | games
> | > | > go into the special 256 color mode. In some cases, interrupting
the
> | > | signal,
> | > | > such as it would when ALT+TABing out, may allow the monitor to
lock
> | in,
> | > | thus
> | > | > allowing the game to run.
> | > | >
> | > | > "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
> | > | news:%23zAvUJ3XEHA.3476@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > | > > The Alt+Tab isn't really a workaround. Although you get to see
the
> | game,
> | > | > > well...it's kinda hard to play having to alt+tab all the time ;)
> | > | > >
> | > | > > I guess this is one of those ones which won't be solved. There
are
> | no
> | > | > extra
> | > | > > settings on my graphics card, and just to check I hit another
> | graphics
> | > | > card
> | > | > > into my computer and the same thing happens. Personally it
doesn't
> | > | bother
> | > | > > me, (apart from more games being on my "non-working-XPcompat
> | list).This
> | > | > > request was more for someone else who asked me about the game.
> | Doesn't
> | > | > > bother me because I can simply boot to any other Windows
Operating
> | > | system
> | > | > on
> | > | > > other computers or that computer, just the guy who asked
me...can't
> | ;)
> | > | > >
> | > | > > The Custom PIF settings I've also tried as well. Really all the
> | standard
> | > | > > stuff I've tried. To be perfectly honest I;ve only really used
them
> | for
> | > | > > things such as disabling DPMI support for games. Just wondered
if
> | any of
> | > | > the
> | > | > > MVP's here had any other info on the 256 color thing that I was
> | missing.
> | > | I
> | > | > > guess it might remain one of those great unsolved ("_).
> | > | > >
> | > | > > Oh well, guess I'll just leave that one off my list then, game
#2084
> | to
> | > | > > start now then ;)
> | > | > >
> | > | > > "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message
> | > | > news:40e407eb$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> | > | > > > Hi Chris!
> | > | > > >
> | > | > > > If it's a DOS game, Lex has already seen my suggestions,
however
> | > | > > > he might want to experiment with custom PIF settings to see if
> | they
> | > | > > > have any effect on that issue. At least he has the Alt+Tab
> | > | workaround.
> | > | > > :-)
> | > | > > >
> | > | > > > --
> | > | > > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell /
> | User
> | > | > > > Jimmy S.
> | > | http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > > >
> | > | > > >
> | > | > > > Game FAQs:
> | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
> | > | > > > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or
> | Call /
> | > | > > Contact
> | > | > > > MS Support at:
> | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
> | > | > > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer
> | any
> | > | > > rights.
> | > | > > > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > > >
> | > | > > > "Chris H." <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > > news:uJ$GLcwXEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > | > > > | Perhaps Jimmy will drop in with a suggestion, but I've never
> | seen a
> | > | > > program
> | > | > > > | have that issue, Lex. Are you running any special settings
on
> | your
> | > | > > graphics
> | > | > > > | card? No over-clocking, correct?
> | > | > > > | --
> | > | > > > | Chris H.
> | > | > > > | Microsoft Windows MVP
> | > | > > > | Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> | > | > > > | Associate Expert
> | > | > > > | Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> | > | > > > |
> | > | > > > |
> | > | > > > | "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
> | > | > > news:OgERFRwXEHA.2812@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > | > > > | > Yes, I have installed it with compatibility mode.
> | > | > > > | > I have used the compatibility settings to run it. My point
is
> | that
> | > | > the
> | > | > > > | > game
> | > | > > > | > doesn't run even when in 256 color compatibility.
> | > | > > > | > Really I suppose I was wondering whether there was some
> | problem
> | > | with
> | > | > > > | > Windows
> | > | > > > | > XP 256 color compatibility...given that this game works on
> | every
> | > | > > single
> | > | > > > | > other Operating System I've tried it on. The program is
fully
> | > | > updated,
> | > | > > as
> | > | > > > | > are all my programs. This appears (to me) to be a problem
with
> | > | > Windows
> | > | > > XP
> | > | > > > | > 256 color mode, given the fact that it only works when
> | Alt+Tabbing
> | > | > > back
> | > | > > > | > into
> | > | > > > | > the game. Or at least a problem with XP 256 color mode
and
> | the
> | > | way
> | > | > > this
> | > | > > > | > game tries to use 256 color.
> | > | > > > | >
> | > | > > > | > And of course, I do realise most of the older games will
work
> | on
> | > | > > Windows
> | > | > > > | > XP.
> | > | > > > | > I have over 1500 old games (I can't stand the new games.
;))
> | and
> | > | > only
> | > | > > few
> | > | > > > | > refuse to work. This is one of them.
> | > | > > > | >
> | > | > > > | > Any real suggestions on getting this game to work in XP?
> | > | > > > | >
> | > | > > > | > "Chris H." <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > > > | > news:eGeSrfvXEHA.2816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > | > > > | >> Basically, what Compatibility Mode does is allow the
older
> | > | program
> | > | > to
> | > | > > > | >> "think" it is being installed on the operating system for
> | which
> | > | it
> | > | > > was
> | > | > > > | >> designed. You also need to pay attention to the game's
> | > | > > requirements,
> | > | > > > | >> and
> | > | > > > | >> some need to be installed using Compatibility starting
with
> | the
> | > | > > > | > installation
> | > | > > > | >> itself by going to Start/Run/Browse and locating the
> | install.exe
> | > | or
> | > | > > > | >> setup.exe file on the root of the CD. You can
right-click
> | that
> | > | > file,
> | > | > > > | > follow
> | > | > > > | >> the pattern to use Compatibility Mode and have it
install.
> | > | > > > | >>
> | > | > > > | >> Most of the "older" games will run perfectly well on
Windows
> | XP.
> | > | > > Some
> | > | > > > | > need
> | > | > > > | >> to use Compatibility Mode (details are in Help and
Support),
> | and
> | > | > this
> | > | > > > | >> TechNet article will help you:
> | > | > > > | >>
> | > | > > > | >
> | > | > >
> | > | >
> | > |
> |
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/lgcyapps.mspx
> | > | > > > | >>
> | > | > > > | >> After the install, make sure to update the program from
the
> | web
> | > | > site
> | > | > > of
> | > | > > > | > the
> | > | > > > | >> creator, then right-click the icon you'll use to launch
the
> | game
> | > | > and
> | > | > > make
> | > | > > > | >> sure the proper Compatibility settings are ready. You
also
> | need
> | > | to
> | > | > > make
> | > | > > > | >> sure the proper display and color settings are selected.
> | Turning
> | > | > off
> | > | > > > | >> "themes" in the Compatibility section will allow you to
> | continue
> | > | to
> | > | > > run
> | > | > > > | > them
> | > | > > > | >> in your regular Windows setup, but will disable them only
for
> | the
> | > | > > > | > particular
> | > | > > > | >> game.
> | > | > > > | >> --
> | > | > > > | >> Chris H.
> | > | > > > | >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> | > | > > > | >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> | > | > > > | >> Associate Expert
> | > | > > > | >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> | > | > > > | >>
> | > | > > > | >>
> | > | > > > | >> "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
> | > | > > > | > news:%23PE0dEuXEHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > | > > > | >> >I have a game here which needs WinG.dll and 256 colors.
It
> | is a
> | > | > > windows
> | > | > > > | >> > game. I have installed the latest WinG library from the
> | > | microsoft
> | > | > > site.
> | > | > > > | >> > I have changed the game's properties so it runs in
> | > | compatibility
> | > | > > mode
> | > | > > > | > with
> | > | > > > | >> > 256 colors. I have disabled visual themes etc. (in fact
> | I've
> | > | > tried
> | > | > > it
> | > | > > > | > with
> | > | > > > | >> > several combinations).
> | > | > > > | >> >
> | > | > > > | >> > When I run the game, it appears fine until I get to the
> | menu
> | > | > > screen. At
> | > | > > > | >> > which point I just get a blank black screen. if I
alt+tab
> | back
> | > | > into
> | > | > > > | >> > Windows
> | > | > > > | >> > and then again back into the game, the display appears
> | > | fine...but
> | > | > > as
> | > | > > > | > soon
> | > | > > > | >> > as
> | > | > > > | >> > I choose an option, it goes black again..so I have to
> | Alt+Tab
> | > | > again
> | > | > > . I
> | > | > > > | >> > think this is probably something to do with 256 color
mode
> | for
> | > | > this
> | > | > > > | >> > game
> | > | > > > | >> > but
> | > | > > > | >> > I don't know what.
> | > | > > > | >> >
> | > | > > > | >> > Do any of you know the solution?
> | > | > > > | >> > The game is Vikings - Strategy of the Ultimate
Conquest..
> | > | > > > | >> >
> | > | > > > | >> > Oh, and the game works perfectly on Windows 98 SE and
> | Windows
> | > | 95b
> | > | > > and I
> | > | > > > | >> > haven't tried it on Windows 2000. It seems to just be
> | Windows
> | > | > XP...
> | > | > > > | >> >
> | > | > > > | >> > Any suggestions? Would there be any other compatibility
> | options
> | > | > > using
> | > | > > > | > Qfix
> | > | > > > | >> > util that could fix it?
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