Re: Any tweaks to speed up games under XP?
From: Jimmy S. (Private)
Date: 03/14/04
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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:31:55 -0500
I'll agree that there is information stored by software in our
registries which is unnecessary.. from a users perspective at least.
-- Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ "pjp" <pjp_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message news:ukjyoThCEHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... |I still feel that's in fact what almost all software should do rather than | bloating the registry with entries no-one but itself ever use. Since DOS 3, | software has easily been able to determine it's "home" folder, it's always | passed to the program as command line parameter 0 by the OS, XP included. | Therefore for most programs, it'd be a much better choice if they simply | created any "ini" and/or "cfg" files etc. in this home folder. Anything else | can easily be handled including it in each users save files. | | I'm sure we can all agree there's way to much stuff put in the registry that | just doesn't seem to have any "use". Geez, seems everything you install "has | to get their name in there" even if they don't create any sub-keys and/or | values. | | Argh!!! | | "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message | news:uwhsHffCEHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... | > I've seen that happen with some games where the game creates | > a .ini for it's input and output devices. One game that comes to | > mind is CFS which requires you to run a config utility whenever | > you make changes such as upgrading your video card / driver. | > | > -- | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / | Contact | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any | rights. | > _________________________________________________________ | > | > "pjp" <pjp_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message | news:%23vLgfbfCEHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... | > | "If you're using the same folder on a common partition for program | > | installation and playing the games on XP and Win98SE attempting to use | the | > | same files - don't. Just that simple." | > | | > | I think you're wrong in considering this so much a no-no. Please | elaborate | > | specific problem as it's my understanding (from 20 years programming | > | experience) unless there's OS feature specific files involved, the whole | > | point of the Windows API is so that one can write software that'll run | > | unchanged under any of MS's 32 bit OS's. | > | | > | Basically assuming the game doesn't actually "demand" existing registry | > | entries before it'll run and assuming it doesn't install dll's etc. | anywhere | > | but it's own installed folder, what's the problem? I'm not aware of | anything | > | amiss with this as it's all still code for the Windows 32 bit API and DX | > | calls etc. are all the same across OS's. | > | | > | Obviously anything that makes use of features only found under XP etc. | will | > | have problems but games (thankfully) still state "For 98...XP" and I've | yet | > | to see one has different installed files depending on OS. | > | | > | Windows 98SE on C: | > | Windows XP Pro on D: | > | | > | I install all games into a folder named " D:\More Games\'gamedir' " | (largest | > | hd in system) regardless of OS in use at time. | > | | > | Seems at least three games I've tried don't care about actual OS once | > | they've been installed into a folder. I'm also sure many more also would | > | have no problems, Quake and most of it's variants using that grahics | engine | > | for example assuming OpenGl's working properly. You'll also find many | > | programs also will have no problems, e.g. Paint Shop Pro 7 doesn't as | again | > | the developers wrote their code properly without having OS version | specific | > | anything in it and without installing anything outside it's own folder. | > | | > | Of course products like Office have to use two separate installs. MS | places | > | so much crap outside of the install folder and usually alter enough | registry | > | entries that it can't be helped. | > | | > | Current testing is from ... | > | | > | NFS:U was already installed under 98SE, under XP just created a shortcut | and | > | it runs with no complaints. | > | FS 2004 was already installed under 98SE, same as NFS:U, e.g. runs under | XP | > | with no problems and no complaints | > | Links 2003 installed under XP, under 98SE just created shortcut and it | runs | > | with no complaints. | > | | > | But all of them have had the "testing reversed", e.g. reversed OS | installed | > | under and the results (XP slower) is the same. | > | | > | Only thing that "happened" is when first run under the "other" OS, both | > | Links and FS do the Licensing/Agree dialog. All three basically | duplicated | > | the registry entries found under the other OS after their first run (I | > | checked). | > | | > | All three examples above run noticably faster and hence appear smoother | > | under 98SE even at one notch of resolution higher. | > | | > | The only "problem" is where the game "Saves" can vary between OS's. I | can | > | live with it. | > | | > | | > | "Chris H." <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | news:eMzCfDdCEHA.1544@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... | > | > Okay, now I'm hoping I'm not seeing a pattern here: "installed under | XP | > | and | > | > shortcuts created under 98SE"? You're not dual-booting on the same | > | > partition are you? If you're using the same folder on a common | partition | > | > for program installation and playing the games on XP and Win98SE | > | attempting | > | > to use the same files - don't. Just that simple. | > | > -- | > | > Chris H. | > | > Microsoft Windows MVP | > | > Associate Expert | > | > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone | > | > | > | > "pjp" <pjp_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message | > | > news:e4Ix6WZCEHA.2576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... | > | > > Yea, I agree worth trying but not hopefull as it's apparent also in | > | Links | > | > > 2003 and Flight Sim 2004 (but not as much, slower game) which were | > | > > installed | > | > > under XP and shortcuts created under 98SE. | > | > > | > | > > "Anthony Procissi [MSFT]" <procissi@online.microsoft.com> wrote in | > | message | > | > > news:OY%23cidUCEHA.3344@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... | > | > >> Preaching to the choir... :) | > | > >> | > | > >> Barebones services allocate half as much memory (maybe more), knock | the | > | > > base | > | > >> CPU usage down a few percent, and cut running processes down at | least a | > | > >> third... less processes, less threads, less time the CPU has to | spend | > | on | > | > >> context switching / paging... it must help to some degree; | especially | > | if | > | > >> you're on hardware close to the minimum system requirements... but | as | > | you | > | > >> say, the gain is likely to be negligible and the headache might | cost | > | you | > | > > far | > | > >> more than a hardware upgrade would. | > | > >> | > | > >> On the original topic... I'm not sure how Need For Speed actually | > | > >> installs | > | > >> itself, but... maybe reinstalling it on XP and seeing how it | performs | > | > > might | > | > >> be worth a shot. The whole "install on 9x, copy a shortcut to XP | and | > | > > launch" | > | > >> seems a little sketchy to me... | > | > >> | > | > >> -- | > | > >> -Anthony Procissi [MSFT] | > | > >> US-Application Experience & Compatibility | > | > >> | > | > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | > | > > rights. | > | > >> "Chris H." <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | > >> news:eJwC4$TCEHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... | > | > >> > LOL! That's good, except - just for my own curiosity - just how | much | > | > > does | > | > >> > one gain from doing these things? And who is around to ask | question | > | > > after | > | > >> > question in the newsgroups in an attempt to solve an issue like | when | > | > >> > someone suddenly screams for help because can't install anything? | > | They | > | > >> > turned off Cryptographic Services because it was "recommended" | and | > | have | > | > >> > forgotten or don't remember to turn it back on. | > | > >> > | > | > >> > To me, this is like people who over-clock hardware for what(?), | > | rights | > | > > to | > | > >> > saying they're burning up their CPU, RAM or graphics card? How | does | > | > >> > one | > | > >> > really tell that much "||" difference in speed, compared to that | "| | > ||" | > | > >> > much in milliseconds? And for what(?) to play online games where | it | > | is | > | > >> > the speed of the Internet, not how fast the machine will perform | > | > >> > certain | > | > >> > functions? | > | > >> > | > | > >> > And I thought college basketball was the only March Madness. 8-) | > | > >> > -- | > | > >> > Chris H. | > | > >> > Microsoft Windows MVP | > | > >> > Associate Expert | > | > >> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone | > | > >> > | > | > >> > "Anthony Procissi [MSFT]" <procissi@online.microsoft.com> wrote | in | > | > > message | > | > >> > news:%23v%23ND5TCEHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... | > | > >> >>I can't believe I'm going to dispute a statement made by the all | > | > >> >>knowing | > | > >> >>Jimmy S... I might as well go after Chris H! :) However, the | > | "Disable | > | > >> >>All" button in MSConfig - Services will leave "Essential | Services" | > | > >> >>enabled. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> You could use the Disable All button, reboot and run XP. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> Please note: I have test machines for such things, and do not | > | > >> >> recommend | > | > >> >> trying this at home. I did so because if the Disable All button | > | caused | > | > >> >> Windows to no longer operate we would need to address that. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> Thanks, | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> -- | > | > >> >> -Anthony Procissi [MSFT] | > | > >> >> US-Application Experience & Compatibility | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers | no | > | > >> >> rights. | > | > >> >> "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message | > | > >> >> news:ePp0rfSCEHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... | > | > >> >>> Hi pjp, | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> I echo Chris's caution. You should upgrade to a P4 instead of | > | > > tweaking. | > | > >> >>> You found one good trick already though, (run high) here's some | > | > > more... | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> USE THE FOLLOWING INFO AT YOUR OWN RISK! | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> I don't really want to provide a tweaking guide, however it's | > | > >> >>> clear that there's a demand, so I'll share some tricks I've | used | > | > >> >>> as long as you promise to set a restore point right now. Is | that | > | > >> >>> a fair deal? ;-) Here's how to use Windows XP System Restore: | > | > >> >>> | > | > > | > | | http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gethelp/systemrestore.asp | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> I use these methods only for special games such as grudge | matches. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> A: Setup Hardware Profile for Gaming | > | > >> >>> Control Panel / System | > | > >> >>> Hardware Tab / Hardware Profiles button | > | > >> >>> Copy Profile 1 and rename it Gaming Profile | > | > >> >>> Leave Profile 1 at the top of the list | > | > >> >>> Set to Select the first profile in 5 seconds | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> B: Disable Services for Gaming. | > | > >> >>> Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Services | > | > >> >>> For each service listed below do the following: | > | > >> >>> Right Click / Properties / Log On Tab | > | > >> >>> Click on Gaming Profile / click Disable Button | > | > >> >>> Click Apply but Do NOT disable for Profile 1 | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> List of Services: Alerter / Automatic Updates / Computer | Browser | > | > >> >>> Cryptographic Services (Will cause "Logo" Errors when | installing | > | SP1 | > | > > or | > | > >> >>> DX9) | > | > >> >>> Fast User Switching Compatibility / Help and Support / | Messenger | > | > >> >>> Print Spooler / Remote Registry / Secondary Logon (Run as... | will | > | not | > | > >> >>> function) | > | > >> >>> System Restore Service / Task Scheduler / Terminal Services / | > | Themes | > | > >> >>> Upload Manager / VMWare Authorization Service (These services | only | > | > >> >>> appear if | > | > >> >>> you use VM Ware) / VMWare DHCP Service " " / VMWare NAT | Service | > | " | > | > >> >>> " | > | > >> >>> Windows Image Acquisition (I won't be scanning while playing) / | > | > > Windows | > | > >> >>> Time. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> * You cannot expect to install games and use windows everyday | with | > | > >> >>> the | > | > >> >>> above | > | > >> >>> services disabled. Those are just safe services to disable | > | > >> >>> *WHILE* | > | > >> >>> you're in | > | > >> >>> a game. After the games are over, reboot and use the | original | > | > >> >>> Profile 1 again. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> C: Disable Page File | > | > >> >>> Since I have 512 MB Ram I find it faster to use RAM than to | page | > | > >> >>> to | > | > >> >>> the HD. | > | > >> >>> Control Panel / System / Advanced / Performance Settings | / | > | > >> >>> Advanced Tab | > | > >> >>> Virtual Memory Change / Select each drive / click No | > | > >> >>> Paging | > | > >> >>> file and | > | > >> >>> click SET. ****If you do not click Set it will | not | > | > >> >>> accept your change. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> * Once you're finished your games turn back on the System | Managed | > | > > page | > | > >> >>> file! | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> D: Use XP's Firewall Instead of 3rd Party Firewalls | > | > >> >>> We've already disabled your firewall (Norton's, Zone Alarm, | > | etc.) | > | > > by | > | > >> >>> disabling | > | > >> >>> Startup programs in step D. Check your services using the | > | method | > | > > in | > | > >> >>> step A to | > | > >> >>> see if the firewall or antivirus program has services you | should | > | > >> >>> disable, i.e. Zone | > | > >> >>> Alarm installs a True Vector service you can disable for the | > | > >> >>> Gaming | > | > >> >>> Profile. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> E: Improve Framerates by Lowering Game Eyecandy and Sound | > | > >> >>> I found that by setting my resolution in Halo to 800x600, | and | > | > >> >>> lowering the | > | > >> >>> visual effects, I was able to improve my framerate from 24 | to 52 | > | > > FPS! | > | > >> >>> :-) | > | > >> >>> This is more improvement than any of the other tweaks | provided. | > | > >> >>> Sound is something that you don't need. Only keep sound | > | settings | > | > >> >>> that will | > | > >> >>> help keep you alive, for example to hear a tank rumbling | near | > | you. | > | > >> >>> Music and | > | > >> >>> the sound effects made when you fire your weapons are | expensive | > | > >> >>> ear | > | > >> >>> candy. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> F: Set Performance Options for Best Performance | > | > >> >>> Control Panel / System / Advanced / Settings / Visual | Effects | > | > >> >>> Adjust for best performance (remember to change it back | > | after | > | > >> >>> your games). | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> G: Disable Startup Programs | > | > >> >>> Start / Run / type msconfig / Startup Tab / Click Disable | all | > | > > button. | > | > >> >>> You will be prompted to restart, when it restarts you'll | have 5 | > | > >> >>> seconds to pick | > | > >> >>> Gaming Profile or it will default to Profile 1 instead. | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> WARNING - DO NOT CLICK THE SERVICES / DISABLE ALL BUTTON! | > | > >> >>> *Never touch the Services Tab in msconfig! It allows you to | disable | > | > > ALL | > | > >> >>> services | > | > >> >>> for ALL profiles with the click of one button and Windows won't | > | > >> >>> startu | > | > > p | > | > >> >>> again!!! | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> Okay, so now I've shared some of the tweaks I've used on my own | > | > > system. | > | > >> >>> I | > | > >> >>> hope this information will be helpful, and if used properly | help | > | you | > | > > pwn | > | > >> >>> your opps! | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> -- | > | > >> >>> Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / | User | > | > >> >>> Jimmy S. | > | > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> Game FAQs: | > | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms | > | > >> >>> Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or | Call | > | / | > | > >> >>> Contact | > | > >> >>> MS Support at: | > | > >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top | > | > >> >>> My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer | any | > | > >> >>> rights. | > | > >> >>> _________________________________________________________ | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> "Chris H." <winxpnews@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | > >> >>> news:eZBPqzRCEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... | > | > >> >>> | Have you tried, instead of "tweaking" what you might think is | > | > >> >>> necessary in | > | > >> >>> | Services, to run the default? Indexing, for instance, when | > | turned | > | > > off | > | > >> >>> will | > | > >> >>> | actually stop some games in their tracks. It is there for a | > | > > purpose, | > | > >> >>> and | > | > >> >>> | that is to make things run smoother and faster. There are a | > | couple | > | > >> >>> web | > | > >> >>> | sites and a PC magazine article which make recommendations to | > | > >> >>> "speed | > | > >> >>> up" XP | > | > >> >>> | for gaming, but they don't tell the consequences - like | turning | > | off | > | > >> >>> | Cryptographic Services. | > | > >> >>> | -- | > | > >> >>> | Chris H. | > | > >> >>> | Microsoft Windows MVP | > | > >> >>> | Associate Expert | > | > >> >>> | Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone | > | > >> >>> | | > | > >> >>> | "pjp" <pjp_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message | > | > >> >>> | news:u3fQ0uRCEHA.3024@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... | > | > >> >>> | > XP Pro with integrated sp1 plus all criticals from Update | site | > | > >> >>> applied. | > | > >> >>> | > Latest VIA 4-in-1;s applied as first install after OS up | and | > | > > going. | > | > >> >>> | > DirectX9.0b, passes all DXDiag tests and there's "No | Problem | > | ..." | > | > >> >>> all | > | > >> >>> | > around. | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > Tyan Trinity 400 S1854 motherboard | > | > >> >>> | > PIII at 733Mz (to spec) | > | > >> >>> | > 512 megs ram running at 133mz fsb (to spec) | > | > >> >>> | > Radeon 64 DDR VIVO (7200) | > | > >> >>> | > Xpert98 (2nd display multi-monitor) | > | > >> >>> | > two wd hd's, 15 & 40 gigs with plenty free space on each | > | > >> >>> | > Creative SB-PCI128 sound card | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > 2 Logitech Rumblepads | > | > >> >>> | > 2 Logitch wheels (MOMO Force & Racing) | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > Mustek flatbed scanner "Twain", (lpt port pass thru model) | > | > >> >>> | > Creative Webcam (also appears as a Twain scanner) | > | > >> >>> | > Fuji digital camera as webcam or Mass Storage Device | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > 3 printers, 2 Epson inkjets and an old Canon laser | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > Logitech mouse | > | > >> >>> | > Wacom pressure sensitive tablet | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > Ethernet card connected to four other older 98SE pc's | in-house | > | > >> >>> (TCP/IP and | > | > >> >>> | > Netbuie as protocols, including XP) | > | > >> >>> | > USR Robotics 56K external modem | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > 2 self-powered external four port USB hubs for all the USB | > | > > devices. | > | > >> >>> Does | > | > >> >>> | > provide 500Ma spec to every port simultaneously, e.g. no | > | attached | > | > >> >>> device | > | > >> >>> | > shows any kind of problem in use.. | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > The hardware seems stable an there was/is specific XP | drivers | > | for | > | > > it | > | > >> >>> all | > | > >> >>> | > (I | > | > >> >>> | > was surprised I found scanner driver). The ethernet is up | and | > | > >> >>> running with | > | > >> >>> | > printers and folders being shared as expected from both | sides. | > | I | > | > >> >>> even | > | > >> >>> | > managed to get the Guest account to be able to use a proxy | > | server | > | > > on | > | > >> >>> one | > | > >> >>> | > of | > | > >> >>> | > the other pc's to connect to the net after giving up in | > | > > frustration | > | > >> >>> at | > | > >> >>> | > it's | > | > >> >>> | > refusal to allow use of the dialup modem connection even | though | > | > > it's | > | > >> >>> | > specified as "shared by all" by the "Admin" account that | set it | > | > >> >>> up | > | > >> >>> (Users | > | > >> >>> | > are ok and can use it). The only problem hardware wise is, | I | > | > >> >>> can't | > | > >> >>> get the | > | > >> >>> | > back speakers working off the sound card as there appears | to be | > | > > only | > | > >> >>> XP's | > | > >> >>> | > built-in support for the card. | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > This is the one thing I've found really makes a difference | for | > | > > games | > | > >> >>> is, | > | > >> >>> | > use | > | > >> >>> | > batch files to start the game so you can elevate it's | priority, | > | > > e.g. | > | > >> >>> "cmd | > | > >> >>> | > /c | > | > >> >>> | > start /High LinksLauncher.exe" is noticably faster (as I'd | > | > > expect). | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > I feel the basic problem is background "tasks" as | Performance | > | > > under | > | > >> >>> | > Ctrl-Alt-Del shows cpu bouncing from 2 to 13% continually | (but | > | > >> >>> randomly in | > | > >> >>> | > magnitude). I've tried to determine exactly what all these | > | > >> >>> various | > | > >> >>> | > services | > | > >> >>> | > do but when you try to research them it seems like the | answer | > | > >> >>> becomes a | > | > >> >>> | > circular reference and it's never really explained. In | > | > >> >>> particular, | > | > >> >>> it's | > | > >> >>> | > undetermined what's going on in the background regarding | the | > | > >> >>> ethernet. | > | > >> >>> | > There | > | > >> >>> | > seems to be a number of various services that might be | doing | > | some | > | > >> >>> type of | > | > >> >>> | > "polling" for shares or something but as they're not really | > | > >> >>> documented I | > | > >> >>> | > have no idea what one's I can turn off etc. at no risk to | > | > > basically | > | > >> >>> | > mucking | > | > >> >>> | > up what works now (the Guest account can connect to web | using a | > | > >> >>> Proxy | > | > >> >>> | > server | > | > >> >>> | > running on one of the other pc's as it "refused" anything | to do | > | > > with | > | > >> >>> the | > | > >> >>> | > dialup miodem connection). Basically, I'm very wary of | blindly | > | > >> >>> changing | > | > >> >>> | > things under any version of Windows because as often as not | > | > >> >>> "un-changing" | > | > >> >>> | > it | > | > >> >>> | > doesn't bring the system back to what it was (e.g. unknown | > | > >> >>> inadvertant | > | > >> >>> | > consequences). | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > For example, I have no idea what the "Alerter" service | REALLY | > | > > does, | > | > >> >>> what | > | > >> >>> | > "other features" absolutely require it to be running in | order | > | to | > | > >> >>> function | > | > >> >>> | > correctly nor what these "other services" also do. Ask help | for | > | > >> >>> "them" and | > | > >> >>> | > you get another reference etc. which eventually seems to | lead | > | > >> >>> no-where | > | > >> >>> | > usefull. | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > I have turned off the obvious, e.g. disk performance | monitoring | > | > >> >>> service, | > | > >> >>> | > indexing and the like. | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > As usually MS's help isn't helpfull, just frustrating. | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > "Chris Catt" <notknown@ntlworld.com> wrote in message | > | > >> >>> | > news:uhM4JnPCEHA.712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... | > | > >> >>> | >> Hi, all depends upon your hardware specs, we really need | to | > | know | > | > >> >>> your | > | > >> >>> | >> hardware specs before we can give you advice. What we need | are | > | > >> >>> cpu - | > | > >> >>> | >> type/speed. motherboard, ram - amount/type, video card. If | you | > | > > have | > | > >> >>> any | > | > >> >>> | >> problems finding this out then here | > | > >> >>> | > http://www.aida32.hu/aida32-download.php | > | > >> >>> | >> is a good tool to use. Suffice to say that XP hardware | > | > > requirements | > | > >> >>> are | > | > >> >>> | > much | > | > >> >>> | >> higher than those of win98, therefore if you've not much | ram, | > | > >> >>> say | > | > >> >>> 128mbs, | > | > >> >>> | > XP | > | > >> >>> | >> will really need twice that before you get reasonable game | > | > >> >>> performance. I | > | > >> >>> | >> expect Jimmy S will have more to say on this, over to you | > | Jimmy | > | > > :-) | > | > >> >>> | >> Chris C | > | > >> >>> | >> Chris | > | > >> >>> | >> "pjp" <pjp_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message | > | > >> >>> | >> news:OiF0SEHCEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... | > | > >> >>> | >> > Just installed XP Pro as dual-boot with existing 98SE. | > | > >> >>> | >> > | > | > >> >>> | >> > Same game (NFS:U) running from same folder (e.g. just | > | created | > | > > new | > | > >> >>> | > shortcut | > | > >> >>> | >> > under XP) is basically unplayable under XP it's running | so | > | > >> >>> slow | > | > >> >>> (slow | > | > >> >>> | >> > motion) at 640x480 where-as under 98SE I can run it | > | acceptably | > | > > at | > | > >> >>> | >> 1024x768. | > | > >> >>> | >> > All other settings the same including under Properties | > | DirectX | > | > >> >>> | >> > settings. | > | > >> >>> | >> > Links 2003 and Flight Sim 2004 seem the same but not so | > | > >> >>> exaggerated, | > | > >> >>> | >> > probably because they're not high speed "action" type | games. | > | > >> >>> | >> > | > | > >> >>> | >> > Is this typical? I'm running same revision drivers for | the | > | > >> >>> Radeon, e.g. | > | > >> >>> | >> Cat | > | > >> >>> | >> > 4.3. | > | > >> >>> | >> > | > | > >> >>> | >> > I'm hoping it's all the crap running in the background | so | > | > >> >>> wondering if | > | > >> >>> | >> > there's any site(s) document what all that crap actually | > | does | > | > > as | > | > >> >>> MS's | > | > >> >>> | > help | > | > >> >>> | >> > doesn't even try to explain what they actually "do" in | most | > | > >> >>> cases. | > | > >> >>> | >> > | > | > >> >>> | >> > | > | > >> >>> | >> | > | > >> >>> | >> | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | > | > | > >> >>> | | > | > >> >>> | | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >>> | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |
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