Re: Start explorer, taskbar missing



Hi,
The taskman was just a desperate try ;-)

That with the messages is a good idea, it just might work.
Unfortunately I won't finish it today, and it is not a very clear solution....

For now, the problem is left open.
Maybe the taskbar program will be changed anyway.
Thanks for all your responses...

Greetings,
Rob.




"KM" wrote:

Rob,

Missing the taskman.exe is what I meant by saying the Task Manager issue is not related to Explorer.
You are likely missing the "Task Manager" component from your image.

Best way to get rid of the standard Windows key combinations such as Ctrl+Esc is a keyboard global hook. Or a keyboard driver. When
I did a completely locked down version of OS here (with custom shell) I have done both and it worked like a charm.

Regarding the creating the Desktop. It is undocumented. Unless you want to go a hack way where your shell creates the Desktop in
background, you will have to launch Explorer as the shell.

Also, you haven't explained yet why do you need Desktop and Taskbar for kiosk type of device?

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Regards,
KM

Hi, You again ;-)

I already found and implemented the article on completely-hiding the
taskbar, but CTRL-ESC still works :-(

So How Do I "create the desktop and launch taskbar" myself , if explorer
doesn't when launched by me ?
I looked for taskman.exe, but it dos not seem to be present (?)

Greetings,
Rob.









"KM" wrote:

Rob,

Yes, those things are related.
At launch time Explorer app checks the Shell reg key. If the Explorer was launched as the shell, it will create the Desktop and
Taskbar and run them as a part of the explorer process.

Task Manager and Gina screen though are not related to Explorer. The key combination for Task Manager is Ctrl+Shift+Esc.
Probably a little bit more info about hiding Taskbar you can find here:
http://km-dev.blogspot.com/2007/03/xpe-tip-6-completely-hide-taskbar.html. With that the Ctrl+Esc shouldn't work.

Any particular reason you need the Taskbar functionality?

A little bit more info about removing Explorer here: http://km-dev.blogspot.com/2007/04/autoplay-without-explorer.html. Not much
on
the implementation side is revoked there but just to encourage similar implementations.

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Regards,
KM

Hi,
When I start explorer.exe from registry as the shell, I have a taskbar.

When I start my app as shell, and start explorer.exe from there when going
into so-called "developer mode", an explorer window opens, but no taskbar is
present.
Also, CTRL-ALT-DELETE / Task manager does not work.
Are these 2 things related ?
What is the difference in starting explorer "myself", or as shell ?

I can Hide the taskbar (ShowWindow(SW_HIDE) , but CTRL-ESC still works :-(
A lot is written about starting an app in kiosk mode, but no clear overview
anywhere as far as I have found.

I prefer to start my app as shell, thus avoiding CTRL-ESC and other
hotkey-trouble.
But I do need the Taskbar !

Please help...
Greetings,
Rob.



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