Re: How to boot XPe SP1 from a USB flash drive?

KM, how does it work moving from SP1 to SP2 and FP2007? Will my SP1 TD
files and images still work? What components do I want to leave out to keep
the image size low?


"KM" <konstmor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Russ,

I completely agree with Andy. The main reason you want to move to SP2 is
security updates that are soon only going to be issued for SP2 area. Also,
SP2 by definition is more stable build of XP (this is of course the
statement under judgment for more testing).

Personally, I can give three main reasons I'd want to move to FP2007:
- Finally fixed XPe tools where the bug with loading small and big
projects was so much annoying in RTM/SP1/SP2
- Better EWF and great FBWF
- USB 2.0 boot support

Footprint increase has never been an issue for us here. I feel very
comfortable often disable/remove some components from my image (including
firewall) and leave the build with some errors as long as I know I didn't
break the system functionality and didn't create extra issues (some common
knowledge of various components and lots of testing are always your
friends on XPe).

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Regards,
KM


"RussR" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Andy, thanks for the response.

My pre FBA image size is 150mb. If I upgrade to SP2 with FP2007, how
much will this image grow?

I've downloaded security updates for XPE Sp1 as they've come out, so I
think I'm good to go as far as security goes...again embedded devices do
not connect to the Internet. Is it really crucial that I move to SP2 and
FP2007?




"Andy Allred [MS]" <andyall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Russ.

It appears there's a misunderstanding, you can simply disable the
firewall dependency in the "Core Networking" component before resolving
dependencies, it's just on by default as it is in XP-Pro SP2 because
customers (including XPe developers) were shipping devices connected to
the network and without a firewall. Both SP2 and it's follow on feature
pack FP2007 have had significant changes to address footprint and
component bugs, let alone the security fixes and enhancements. You
really should move on to SP2 or FP2007 asap since the Windows Sustained
Engineering team will not be providing support for SP1 next year.

Russ, please please please get off of SP1 as soon as possible.

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Andy

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RussR wrote:
Well, honestly I've been wary of upgrading to XPE SP2 because I was
told that the image size would increase quite a bit. Also since my
images are created for embedded devices that do not connect to the
Internet, there's no need for the SP2 firewall. We do however have
network connections and I've heard that the firewall is added
automatically in SP2. So my main concern with upgrading to SP2 was the
bloated image size. XPe SP1 has worked for us and it's hard to get
away from the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentaility.


"KM" <konstmor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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RussR,

Theoretically you can boot SP1 from USB drive (lets talk USB 2.0
otherwise it'd be too slow boot). It is not natively supported there
but lots of info has been posted in this NG (and on the Web) on how to
make the USB boot on XP(e) (SP1).
Assuming your BIOS support USB device enumeration and boot from mass
storage devices, basically the "hack" was to make sure all the USB
require drivers are loaded early enough at the system boot (and
populate CriticalDeviceDatabase reg.entries).

However, I am not sure why you really need to mess with this on SP1
when FP2007 is already released and available to downloads. On of the
features XPe SP2 Feature Pack 2007 (FP2007) brings in a USB 2.0 boot.
Assuming your hardware meets the requirements it is really easy to
create an image that will boot off a USB drive.

After all, if you are still needing to get this working on SP1, you
can try coping all the required registry entries and drivers and
loader components from FP2007 to your SP1 image. With certain
preparations (basically you'd need to populate the entries pre or
post-FBA) you can make it to work there with a small effort. Just take
a look at the relevant components in the FP2007 tree.

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Regards,
KM


"RussR" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi, thus far I've thrown my XPE images on a hard drive and everything
has worked fine. With the decrease in price of USB flash drives
however, I want to try booting of one of these usb drives.

I threw my image onto the usb flash drive, my embedded hardware has
the ability to select the USB drive as the one to boot from in the
BIOS. When it comes time to boot nothing happens. It thinks that
there isn't a valid boot image or something.

So I was wondering, is it possible to boot off a USB flash drive
using XPE SP1?

If so, what do I need to change in my image in TD to do it, if
anything?

How do I make the USB flash drive have bootable?

Thanks,
RussR












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