Re: Transmeta Crusoe + Hitachi Microdrive = no good?

Nope. No ideas. Sorry.

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"The Rob" <therob88@[hotmail].com> wrote in message
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> Mark,
>
> Yes, XPe is treating it as removable, both when connected directly to the
> CF-connector of the board and when connected to the IDE-interface through
> an "CF to standard IDE interface".
> In my previous working image, I installed the cfadisk.sys post-FBA to set
> the drive as fixed.
>
> This one hangs during loading CLASSPNP.SYS when placed in CF-connector,
> but doesn´t hang at all when connected to IDE-connector!?!?!?!
>
> Any ideas??
>
> BR,
>
> Rob
>
> "Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@xxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
> news:O3EeacJYFHA.2124@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Is XPe treating this as a removable drive?
>> Maybe you need to get the cfadisk.sys driver from xpefile.com.
>>
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>> Regards.
>> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
>> - Benjamin Franklin
>>
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>> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%238m5VV8WFHA.1404@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>>
>>>> I simply moved the MicroDrive from the CF-holder to an "CF to standard
>>>> IDE interface" and there are no problems.
>>>> The CF-holder should run in True IDE Mode and be compatible with an IDE
>>>> disk drive and it has worked before.
>>>> When connected to CF-holder it is detected as "Secondary Master" and
>>>> when connected to IDE as "Primary Master" (that is pretty normal
>>>> behaviour).
>>>> Now we know that the disk is OK, the board has no problems booting from
>>>> CF-holder.
>>>> What am I missing here?
>>>> Any components needed to be added/removed in order to use the
>>>> Microdrive in the CF-holder?
>>>
>>> If it was missing driver then you would have seen BSOD.
>>>
>>> This problem apear to be purely hardware in nature, no idea though what
>>> it is :-(
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Slobodan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> "The Rob" <therob88@[hotmail].com> skrev i meddelandet
>>>> news:lTHie.24636$d5.172994@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Slobodan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Debugging with Windbg shows that XPe hangs at CLASSPNP.SYS, does this
>>>>> explain the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I can see now, the microdrive has been running complete
>>>>> FBA on a different platform (mentioned earlier), so at this moment I
>>>>> can´t debug it where it froze before FBA.
>>>>> This is also what I saw when "trying" to boot in safe mode before
>>>>> testing the drive elsewhere (I know it doesn´t work, but at least I
>>>>> could see some drivers being loaded).
>>>>> Now I´ll copy the image once again and debug it to see what happens
>>>>> before FBA, but I guess it will be CLASSPNP.SYS
>>>>> Can there be some conflict between CLASSPNP.SYS and the Microdrive +
>>>>> Transmeta? I mean, this file is loaded without problems on XPP + HDD,
>>>>> XPe + CF and on other platforms?
>>>>> I will also try the other method you described, but I would like to
>>>>> understand the problem -not just fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
>>>>> news:Ov4JnX6WFHA.3584@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, are there some ways I can find out what happens? I assume
>>>>>>> there will not be a ntbtlog.txt or setupapi.log since it won´t go
>>>>>>> that far? Is it worth try debugging? I have windbg.
>>>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debugging or making a clean project that work by useing "minlogon
>>>>>> sample macro" are two separate ways left that you can try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would first take a "minlogon sample macro" in empty project
>>>>>> aproach. If this do not work then I would use debugger on this small
>>>>>> new image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debugging freeze problems can be difficult but you could see at least
>>>>>> what driver froze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Slobodan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Rob" <therob88@[hotmail].com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:yJFie.24632$d5.173018@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Hi Slobodan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no problems with the hardware itself since it works with
>>>>>>> CF. I have also tried other identical boards, same things there.
>>>>>>> There are no drivers for microdrive included in the images that I´m
>>>>>>> testing now.
>>>>>>> The only 3rd party drivers in the image would be C&T 69000 (VGA)
>>>>>>> componentized, but should not be the reason for this (?), the same
>>>>>>> drivers are used for the CF image. Again, the microdrive works fine
>>>>>>> on other platform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This has something to do with the combination of Transmeta Crusoe
>>>>>>> TM5800 & Hitachi Microdrive.
>>>>>>> I found some old notes that I made before when I built the working
>>>>>>> image, but I can´t seem to find the right combination now.
>>>>>>> I get the exact same error regardless how I mix them.
>>>>>>> These are some of the components I played with and I know some are
>>>>>>> critical, maybe you can see the solution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Class installer - Processors
>>>>>>> Class installer - System Devices
>>>>>>> Device : DiskDrive
>>>>>>> Device : hdc
>>>>>>> Device : Processor
>>>>>>> IBM Microdrive
>>>>>>> Transmeta Crusoe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately this is all documentation I have left (yes, I know
>>>>>>> that I should document and keep them in a good place. And I promise
>>>>>>> I will in the future.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, are there some ways I can find out what happens? I assume
>>>>>>> there will not be a ntbtlog.txt or setupapi.log since it won´t go
>>>>>>> that far? Is it worth try debugging? I have windbg.
>>>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
>>>>>>> news:%23IP4FC5WFHA.3176@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Progress bar freezes after just a second (the blue bar just moves
>>>>>>>>> from left to the right and freezes there). HDD-LED is litten at
>>>>>>>>> all time, but I can´t see any activity. It can just stay there for
>>>>>>>>> hours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is very veird and unusual problem in case that hardware
>>>>>>>> (processor, memory) is non mailfunctioning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The drive is now, and by default marked as, "Removable", but can
>>>>>>>>> be "fixed" in run-time. I remember that I tried to make it fixed
>>>>>>>>> by including drivers for that before, but then it hung loading
>>>>>>>>> that driver.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the reason why I asked. Since the highest probability for
>>>>>>>> system freeze is some third-party driver and my guess was that you
>>>>>>>> put filter driver for microdrive.
>>>>>>>> Are you sure that you removed it correctly from registry if it was
>>>>>>>> in your image?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any other non-MS drivers in your image?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Slobodan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
>>>>>>>>> news:eTcejv4WFHA.3584@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain the freeze little closely?
>>>>>>>>>> BSOD and numbers on the screen.
>>>>>>>>>> Infinite boot.
>>>>>>>>>> Progress bar is frozen and nothing happen for infinite time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also is this microdrive fixed or removable?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Slobodan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Rob" <therob88@[hotmail].com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:dPDie.24623$d5.172843@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi group!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am once again facing the problem with the Transmeta Crusoe
>>>>>>>>>>> processor in combination with a Hitachi Microdrive 2GB.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have read a lot of threads in newsgroups about problems with
>>>>>>>>>>> either Transmeta or Microdrive, but no solutions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 months ago I built an image (using SP1) and made two identical
>>>>>>>>>>> drives, one was delivered and the 2nd I kept.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Board config looked like this back then: IEI Wafer-6820-733 MHz
>>>>>>>>>>> 128MB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I´m trying the 2nd drive on a IEI Wafer-6820-800 MHz 256MB,
>>>>>>>>>>> but it won´t work!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It boots, but freezes just in the beginning of the Windows boot
>>>>>>>>>>> splash screen before FBA.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I first made the build there were a lot of problems before
>>>>>>>>>>> I got it to work. I tried with several builds (added one or two
>>>>>>>>>>> more components each time) until it finally worked and today I
>>>>>>>>>>> can´t remember exactly which component made it work (even though
>>>>>>>>>>> I made notes). I also saved the different builds and have tried
>>>>>>>>>>> them again, but no luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The "funny" thing is that it works perfectly with a 512 MB CF
>>>>>>>>>>> from SanDisk, SDCFB-512-201-80 (and yes, the image is a little
>>>>>>>>>>> different; boot partition size etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the same MicroDrive works on a completely different
>>>>>>>>>>> platform, IEI Rocky-3732EV with dual Pentium III.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, my question is, is the problem Transmeta or Microdrive
>>>>>>>>>>> related? Is it so that the Transmeta processor is so special I
>>>>>>>>>>> must run TAP on each board with different cpu speed or RAM size?
>>>>>>>>>>> What components MUST I have for Microdrive + Transmeta and which
>>>>>>>>>>> should I NOT have?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions are appreciated, this is driving me crazy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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