Re: Console Application will run.

Hi.

The log files where captured on the running Windows XP device, which is
booting off a 256MB compact flash. When i connect the CF card to my developer
computer (the one i'm using right now) CF cards are assigned to I:. So,
that's why it's called I:.

The hardware i'm using is a "stripped down" Dell Inspiron 7500 Laptop. When
i got it i didn't have a cd-rom or a floppy drive, and I've allso removed the
sound card and the modem, since those part wherent needed. The laptop is
beeing built into a frame and is ment to be used as a digital picture frame.

A few pics of the device can be found at:
- http://jonas.greit.no/img_2844.jpg (LCD beein mounted in foam to keep it
centered)
- http://jonas.greit.no/IMG_2851.JPG (Laptop mother board mounted on the
back of the frame)
- http://jonas.greit.no/img_2857.jpg (First test run, booting Win98 off 2.5"
IDE)

I've swaped the noisy 2.5" IDE hard drive with a 256 MB compact flash card,
using this CF -> 2.5" IDE adapter: http://www.pcengines.ch/pic/cf2e.jpg

The computer has a PIII 500mhz CPU and 128MB PC100 SO-DIMM RAM, and an ATI
Mobility screen adapter. That's the specs i was able to dig up online. But,
as i said, It's a Dell Inspiron 7500.

I've uploaded my FBALog.txt file to: http://jonas.greit.no/fbalog.txt


Regarding software:
On the Windows XPe Dell computer (the picture frame) I'm planning on
building a C# Windows Forms application, displaying pictures downloaded off a
network share. Since the frame will have no HID's I'll need a way to select
next picture, previous picture, pause etc. So, I'm going to expose a few
methods, such as Next(), Previous(), Pause(), Play() and GetThumbnail() as a
remoting server over SOAP.

Then, on the Pocket PC (running Windows Mobile 2003, .NET CF 1.0 SP2) i'll
write a remote controle application using the remoting server on the frame. I
know that .NET Remoting isn't supported by .NET CF 1.0, but if you expose
your remoting server using SOAP (not binary), you can simply add a web
reference and access the methods like any ASP.NET Web Service (even tough the
service is hosted inside the picture app, not IIS).

I've done some work using OpenNETCF, and will probably use it for the
feautures needed that arent supported by the core framework. The way i see
it, OpentNETCF is kinda like .NET CF 1.5, with lots of the stuff missing.

There is an excellent article about remote controlling your PC using
remoting and .NET CF called "Laziness .NET" in the "Code4Fun" section on
MSDN, written by Duncan Mackenzie. The article can be found at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dncodefun/html/code4fun06272003.asp?frame=true

And again, thank you so much for taking time investegating this problem
with me.

-Jonas




"KM" wrote:

> Jonas,
>
> I:? You must have sent me the wrong logs then because they show all the file requests made to C:.
>
> JIT debugger error is not necessarily about the RAM available. But I am now forced to ask you about the system configuration. What
> you are deploying to? What media presented on the target during FBA and post FBA? How does the FBAlog.txt look?
>
> Btw, you may really want to have .Net 1.1 SP1 component added to your image (not just .Net 1.1) if you are using SP2. You will find
> that component on XPe SP2 installation (CD, etc.) under VALUEADD\MSFT folder.
>
>
> As to the .Net Remoting... I did not quite got why you mentioned "pictures"? Do you have a client app running on Pocket PC?
> What type of connection you are planning to set up between the XPe and Pocket PC device? (IrDA, WLAN, etc.)
>
> The final decision is going to be up to you. But if you really good with C# but not C++, Web Services technology would save you days
> of development so I'd suggest you to stick with .Net Remoting. Btw, instead of .NET CF I'd recommend you to look into OpenNetCF
> stuff which has many classes that will be helpful to you in this project.
> Hope your Pocket PC device is not with the first release of the .NET Compact Framework which did not support remoting. (I am not
> even sure if it is there for 1.x version. But it is there for 2.0 beta, IIRC).
>
> --
> Regards,
> KM, BSquare Corp.
>
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > The file:
> > I:\windows\assembly\gac\System.Windows.Forms\1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
> > allready exsists on the XPe image (I: is the CF attached to my developer
> > computer using a card reader).
> >
> > How ever, i might get closer to an answer. I think it's my memory problem,
> > becaouse during FBA i got this error (i redeployed the image):
> >
> > Fatal Execution Engine Error (0x792dc38e)
> >
> > Registered JIT debugger is not available. An attempt to launch a JIT debugger
> > with the following command resulted in an error code of 0x2(2). Please check
> > computer settings.
> >
> > cordbg.exe !a 0x1b4
> >
> > If i click OK a few times the FBA runs through and the computer boots up
> > just fine. But, obvious there is something bogus going on... I tought i was
> > sooooo close to get this thing to run... Looks like getting more RAM or
> > forgetting about .NET and doing this in C++ are my only options?
> >
> > I was hoping to use .NET Remoting on the frame to enable remote control
> > using a pocket pc and .NET CF. Say i do this in C++, how hard is it to do
> > sockets programming and reading some kind of input, like next picture,
> > previous picture, pause and play?
> >
> > I'm a decent C# developer, but have never written a single line of C++... So
> > i _really_ want C# (so easy to consume my "person aware web service" etc.)
> >
> >
> > "KM" wrote:
> >
> > > Jonas,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the logs and the viewer app.
> > >
> > > Just an idea... At runtime can you copy the System.Windows.Forms.dll from C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322 to
> > > C:\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC\System.Windows.Forms\1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089 (you will have to create this folder).
> > > Then start your HelloWorld app and see if it helped anyhow.
> > >
> > > If it did not, please copy the C:\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC\System.Windows.Forms\1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089 folder from XP Pro
> machine
> > > (with .Net 1.1 installed there) to your runtime, reboot XPe image and start the HelloWorld again.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > KM, BSquare Corp.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Since you cant load log files into FileMon or RegMon, and viewing them as
> > > > plain text files can be a pain in the ass, i wrote a little log viewer in C#.
> > > >
> > > > You can download it off http://jonas.greit.no/MonLogViewer.zip
> > > >
> > > > It simply loads the log files into a list view that you can sort and remove
> > > > rows from. If you remove un-needed rows you can save the new stripped file to
> > > > disk.
> > > >
> > > > "Jonas Folleso" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've uploaded the log files at:
> > > > > http://jonas.greit.no/regmon.txt
> > > > > http://jonas.greit.no/filemon.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > HelloWorld.exe is a C# Windows Forms application in it's simplest form.
> > > > > Simply selected "New project - Windows Forms - Build in release". I havent
> > > > > made ANY changes, and it's not configured for localization (culture neutral).
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatefully appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > "KM" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jonas,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmm...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried running both filemon and regmon on the computer, but not sure what to look for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is hard to advise not seeing the log. Any chance for you to save, attach and post the Logs to this thread?
> > > > > > Also, I'd suggest you to first analyze there the misisng (FILE NOT FOUND) components (FileMon log).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > One of the last registry actions before the app crashes is a
> > > > > > > language lookup. I tryed setting the app to only support English (since
> > > > > > > that's the only language supported on the XPe computer) but with no luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In your application do you use only English resources?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I allso tryed adding a try-catch block around the entrypoint of the
> > > > > > > application. This should catch any exception caoused by the application and
> > > > > > > display it in a MEssageBox. The exception never get caought, so the error has
> > > > > > > nothing to do with my code, but the JIT/Runtime.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you app runs fine on XP Pro, you may think it is not your app code that cause the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > KM, BSquare Corp.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "KM" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jonas,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can only suggest you to monitor the broken app launch with RegMon/FileMon to see what's missing there.
> > > > > > > > Again, I think this is a bug of XPe (I guess SP2?).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > KM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just did some more testing and built a simple C# Console Application
> > > > > > > > > displaying the current date and time, and it ran perfectly. A windows
> > > > > > > > > application doing the same thing caouses the error mentioned in the first
> > > > > > > > > post in this thread. So, obviously the .NET Framework is installed, but the
> > > > > > > > > problem has something to do with WindowS Forms Applications.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Jonas Folleso" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> I didn't install it manually, i added the .NET Framework 1.1 component to
> > > > > > > > >> the image. The image is based on the "WinLogon Sample Macro" component.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "KM" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > Jonas,
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Sounded like you installed the .Net Framework at run time manually. Any particular reason not to use the .Net
> > > component
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >> > XPe
> > > > > > > > >> > repository?
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Alos, what is your image based on - Minlogon or Winlogon?
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > KM
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > I've finnaly managed to installed the .Net Framework and boot my Windows XPe
> > > > > > > > >> > > image. I've copied a hello world application to the XPe computer.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > When I execute the hello world.exe file. I get this exception immediately
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > CommonLanguage Runtime Debugging Service
> > > > > > > > >> > > "Application has generated an exception that could not be handled
> > > > > > > > >> > > Process ID=0x704(1796), thread id = 0x710(1808)"
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > Can any one tell me what went wrong, do I need to install any additional
> > > > > > > > >> > > components? I have the "autoresolve dependency" setting turned on.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > -Jonas
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