Re: XPe El-Torito bootable CD

From: simon (simon_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 01/26/05 

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 04:33:02 -0800

Hi Slobodan,
Thanks for the guidance, I have created the first CD and completed FBA.
Before moving on I would like to check a few things:

Checking EWF Protected volume 0 in registry shows Enabled (1) so I guess
this is OK?

Referring to the thread where Anthony refers to 'Clump Size'=DWORD:00000200,
I have not got this entry in the EWF registry.

My Volume ID is "{1EA414D1-6760-4625-8CBE-4F9F85A48E15}"

I have deleted all entries from Mounted Devices branch.

After FBA completed I ran ewfmgr. Result=Unable to find EWF Volume
Then I ran ewfmgr c: result= Protected volume configuration
type:RAM, State:Disabled, Clump size:512, etc.

Then I ran ewfmgr c: -enable resulting in:
***Enabling overlay but the configuration report was exactly the same as
above with State:Disabled, etc.

Is this because it will enable on next boot?

Thanks,
Simon.

"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> Your steps 1 and 2 are completely wrong :-(
>
> You should use advanced mode in Nero.
> Click on Data and then on "Make Bootable Disc" option.
>
> You must use FAT partition.
> And you must copy whole partition not files.
>
> Please follow my procedures from original thread literally:
>
> NERO usage for El-torito CD creation.
> 1. Select Make Bootable Disk option.
> 2. Select Bootable logical drive option, and select volume with XPe that you want to record on El-torito part of CD.
> 3. Go to next step. (Press New.)
> 4. Add files that you want to have on your CD.
> 5. Select recorder->Choose Recorder
> 6. Select Device "Image Recorder" and press OK.
> 7. Choose Burn option and then name file that will receive CD image.
> 8. Use HEX editor and find MBR sector placed by Nero. Go to 1B8 location (relative offset from MBR) and type 'ELTO' DiskID on that
> position of hex representation depending on hex editor. You can make a simple app that will change this number if you need to
> frequently burn new images.
> 9. From NERO. Choose option Burn image to Disk.
> 10. Choose image file.
> 11. Change back to real recording device driver so you can burn image on CD instead to image again.
> 12. Burn image.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Slobodan
>
>
> "simon" <simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3BDAD9E8-DFED-415F-9DF7-1644EA6AE325@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Slobodan,
> > Thanks for the quick reply.
> >
> > The image configured and built by TD is copied to the first partition of the
> > 'deploy' HDD which will be transferred to the target when complete. I then
> > use nero as follows to create an iso copy of the image on the second
> > partition of the 'deploy' HDD.
> >
> > 1. In leftmost panel, 'CD-ROM (ISO)' is selected and 'New' button is clicked.
> > 2. The compilation panel opens and the complete file structure from the
> > image on partition 1 is dragged across to the compilation window.
> > 3. The image recorder device is selected on the toolbar window.
> > 4. The burn button is hit which invokes the Burn Compilation dialogue box.
> > 5. In the burn tab 'Write' and 'Finalize CD' are checked, write method is
> > 'Track-at-once" and then 'Burn' is clicked.
> > 6. The 'Save Image File' box pops up. I give the file a name without spaces
> > and have saved to both partition two on the development drive and My
> > Documents on different occasions and have saved as both .nrg and .iso files
> > on different occasions.
> > 7. Burn button is clicked and it completes successfully
> > 8. If the image is burned to the second partition I have either run ElSigFix
> > and specified the path and filename and extension or copied the image to the
> > same folder as ElSigFix and specified the filename and extension only. Both
> > return "No EL TORITO signature found."
> >
> > Having carried out a search for the string "\0CD001\1EL TORITO
> > SPECIFICATION" it seems that the iso image is not bootable as the string was
> > not found.
> >
> > Perhaps you could comment on the above process while I try a previous build
> > that I know boots ok?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Simon,
> > >
> > > Please could you describe all step by step procedure that you did to make el-torito ISO file?
> > > Close to the beginning of your ISO file there must be following string that I look for. If it is not there then you made a non
> > > bootable ISO file.
> > >
> > > C++ String: "\0CD001\1EL TORITO SPECIFICATION"
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Slobodan
> > >
> > >
> > > "simon" <simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:64858C03-6BB4-4599-A0E4-898DC19C8495@microsoft.com...
> > > > Hi Slobodan,
> > > >
> > > > I have read through the whole thread now and there are some useful tips sure
> > > > enough. In a message from GregG he provides his 14-point procedure.
> > > >
> > > > Would you mind expanding on points 2 and 3? What does he mean by 'read-only
> > > > CD portion?' Is this an ISO version of the image on the first partition
> > > > created by nero?
> > > >
> > > > So far I have created an ISO image of the first partition on the second with
> > > > nero. I have then run ElSigFix but get a message "No EL TORITO signature
> > > > found." This is also the result when run on a .nrg image file.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all your help so far, I feel close!
> > > >
> > > > Simon.
> > > >
> > > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you read trough whole thread? There are 29 posts some of them cover problem that you have.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your Nero version is ok.
> > > > > You need to tell Nero not to use real CD-recorder for burning but rather to use file recorder. This way if you make bootable
> CD
> > > from
> > > > > first partition it will be saved in ISO file that you can edit.
> > > > > After that you just write ISO to CD.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Slobodan
> > > > > PS: Again read carefully thread since this was discussed
> > > > >
> > > > > "simon" <simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1F421042-F3E8-446F-9366-4618A7D4D721@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > Hi Slobodan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the reply. You wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > - When making "Pre FBA" CD this is required to be done only once by using same procedure that you will use later for
> making
> > > > > bootable
> > > > > > > CD.
> > > > > > Yes, this is what I do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > - You can make image on your development computer as long as you have HDD that you use on your target computer.
> > > > > > Yes, I use the same drive and move it from machine to machine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > - You must use first partition of disk for XPe and its size should fit on CD.
> > > > > > Yes, this is what I use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to know more about your method that uses Nero rather than
> > > > > > HD2ISO. You wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are using my approach then you should not use hd2iso but rather use nero to make image that you must patch with
> my
> > > > > program
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would you mind explaining how this process is done? I cannot find a way to
> > > > > > convert an image on the first partition of my development drive to ISO by
> > > > > > using Nero.
> > > > > > I think this may be the key to my problems. What version of Nero do you
> > > > > > use? I have Nero Burning ROM 6.6.0.5.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Secondly, it seems that you burn the post-FBA image to a folder on your hard
> > > > > > drive for editing the MBR before burning a CD. The procedure you provide in
> > > > > > "Creating El-Torito...from Nero" cannot be followed on my version (it seems).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Simon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simon,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - When making "Pre FBA" CD this is required to be done only once by using same procedure that you will use later for
> making
> > > > > bootable
> > > > > > > CD.
> > > > > > > - You can make image on your development computer as long as you have HDD that you use on your target computer.
> > > > > > > - You must use first partition of disk for XPe and its size should fit on CD.
> > > > > > > What method do you follow?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are using my approach then you should not use hd2iso but rather use nero to make image that you must patch with
> my
> > > > > program or
> > > > > > > by hex editor.
> > > > > > > Then record that image on one CD that you will use later on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do not know Sean's procedure but few tips.
> > > > > > > I etprep give you problems then you will have to forget about it and to do things manually.
> > > > > > > Like setting EWF deleting EWF partition and swapping driver letters by modifying registry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Slobodan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "simon" <simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:62401F87-86AB-4F39-BE42-83D23EBE8142@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > Hi Slobodan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am still having trouble with the 'Delayed Write Failed' message when
> > > > > > > > trying to boot from CD.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have rebuilt the image and copied it to a second hard drive on my
> > > > > > > > development machine. That drive is then installed in the target machine and
> > > > > > > > HD2ISO is used to create the iso image on the second partition of that drive
> > > > > > > > (D:).
> > > > > > > > The drive is then replaced in the host machine so Nero can burn a PreFBA
> > > > > > > > El-Torito CD. This is where the first doubt comes in. Why doesn't Nero
> > > > > > > > Burning Rom (v.6.6.0.5) report that the image is bootable in the Info panel?
> > > > > > > > Otherwise the CD is burned successfully. The HDD and CD is moved back over
> > > > > > > > to the target PC and booted to the first partition which invokes First Boot
> > > > > > > > Agent. This completes and reboots to "Machine resealed! Click OK.' Target
> > > > > > > > is rebooted into Command Shell. Using ewfmgr I see that EWF volume is
> > > > > > > > configured. ewfmgr c: shows that State is Disabled. Checking FBALOG.TXT the
> > > > > > > > El-Torito driver is loaded.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then etprep -all is run which is where the first error arises. The ewf
> > > > > > > > volume is deleted but error 0x01 is reported 'Failed to swap drive letters.'
> > > > > > > > However, it reboots into f:\.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This allows me to check a few things.
> > > > > > > > C: holds the image that just booted through FBA,
> > > > > > > > D: currently holds the PreFBA iso image,
> > > > > > > > E: holds the preFBA El-Torito CD,
> > > > > > > > F: this has the same name as C: and holds a slightly smaller version of the
> > > > > > > > bootable image (the Boot.ini file is missing).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Running EWFMGR C: results in 'Failed getting protected volume configuration
> > > > > > > > with error 1'
> > > > > > > > Running EWFMGR F: results in:
> > > > > > > > Protected volume configuration, Type: RAM, State: DISABLED, Device:
> > > > > > > > "...Volume1" [F:], etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shut down target, boot into Win PE, deleted PreFBA.iso and used HD2ISO to
> > > > > > > > create Post FBA.iso on 2nd partition (D:). Replaced drive in host machine to
> > > > > > > > burn final E-T CD (again, no info stating whether bootable in NERO 'Info'
> > > > > > > > tab). Burn runs ok but booting target from the CD gives 'Delayed write
> > > > > > > > failed' message.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The procedure is from XPe Advanced by Sean Liming.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HELP.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I must be making a fundamental error somewhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read link that I gave you. You must make one pre FBA El-torito CD in a same way that you will use
> later
> > > to
> > > > > make a
> > > > > > > > > final
> > > > > > > > > > > CD.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is important since you need this CD with exact signature and size during the FBA.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also using floppy or other partitions will not work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Slobodan
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "simon" <simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:34DB49A9-48DA-412B-B400-4D6F42BAA0A2@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sean, Slobodan,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went through the process again with different results and have a question
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about the burning process for both the Pre FBA cd and the final cd:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nero Express prompts:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Select Boot Image - Select a floppy drive which contains a bootable floppy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disk. Please insert a bootable disk... to make your medium bootable the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > way your floppy is.'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used an MS-Dos startup floppy created with XP's 'format' tool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this a suitable boot image?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding my second attempt at a final E-T cd; it booted as a floppy system
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disk might, i.e. to the a:\ prompt and only the 14 files (<0.5MB) you would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > see on a floppy system disk, no XP files at all. Though when the cd is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > viewed in My Computer it is the full XPe image size (213MB).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I must be making a fundamental error somewhere.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Sean Liming (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creating CD ROMs is tricking. You startout with RAM overlay when the image
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > goes through FBA, then EWF RAM-REG gets created (RAM overlay volutme gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deleted) when you run ETPREP -all. I sometime find that the HD2ISO utlity
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't make a good copy and I have to create the ISO image again.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Liming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Managing Director
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SJJ Embedded Micro Solutions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Author: Windows XP Embedded Advanced and Windows NT Embedded Step-by-Step
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:eeLYBGB9EHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks very much for your speedy response.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Though I must admit, I'm puzzled by your second comment.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > This options are not used by RAM EWF they are used with disk overlay
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > only :-(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Following S.Liming's XPe Advanced book, chapter 11 'Booting XPe from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> CD-ROM'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> page 296, step 8 specifically instructs to set the Optimization Option
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> EWF with RAM Overlay. Perhaps you could expand on your comment?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry pages do not mean to much to me since I do not have Sean's book (I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never needed books on this subject) although I heard that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is good.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify (please note that this is from my head as I remeber it and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also I did not tested it on SP2 EWF revision).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. In order for RAM EWF to work on CD it can't use small EWF config
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partition.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What ever that you set in Optimization Options is during the FBA copied
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from registry to small config partition.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Since on CD you don't have config partition these settings are lost.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know if it can be enabled from registry so that EWF driver can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use it, but in any case it should stay disabled default
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Optimal Performance).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Optimization is intended to work in follwoing way. When you write new data
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to overlay clump before data reach overlay EWF will check
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if data stored on disk is same and in case that it is this clump will not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be stored in overlay, also it should release already used
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clump in case that new data matches data on disk.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see this check would significantly slow down operation when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > booting from CD.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> To clarify your first point:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Your Reg configured RAM EWF after copying image to CD is not working.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > (You did not followed complete instruction for making it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > work.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Are you saying that the RAM EWF -as configured by the registry- was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> burned
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> to CD incorrectly or did the problem originate before this? I am using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Nero
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Express v.5.5.10.6. which is entirely Wizard driven but does give the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> option
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> of burning an El-Torito CD.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm saying that you should prepare XPe as intended for burning, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of burning in on CD, try again to boot from HDD. (NOTE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT REG ENTRY MountedDevices MUST BE EMPTRY)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can boot to XPe from HDD and you have working EWF then problem is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something else.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing that could be a problem is if you have not used first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partition on boot disk.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slobodan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks for the link. Look forward to hearing from you,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Simon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi Simon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > 'Windows - Delayed Write Failed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Your Reg configured RAM EWF after copying image to CD is not working.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > (You did not followed complete instruction for making it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > work.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > In the EWF component settings in Target Designer I selected
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > 'optimised' - I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > can't believe that selecting 'Use less overlay space and less writes'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > make enough of a difference on RAM of this size - unless you can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > suggest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > otherwise? However, I will rebuild the image and create the CDs with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > latter option whilst waiting for a kind soul to make some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > This options are not used by RAM EWF they are used with disk overlay
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > only :-(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Read this is might give you some more info:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded/browse_frm/thread/8a66ee9cd63d679b#f1d6f3ff641cf6e1
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Slobodan
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > "simon" <simon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > news:158FB2AE-680E-454C-BD6C-C4F836BE08AC@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Having created the final El-Torito CD in accordance with Sean
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Liming's book,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I keep getting an error message when trying to boot from it:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > 'Windows - Delayed Write Failed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Windows was unable to save all data for this file...'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I am using a RAM overlay (RAM is 0.5GB so I don't think its short of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > space)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Background disk defrag is turned off
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > The image is a basic XP OS for test purposes and so I wouldn't expect
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > writes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > to be over the top - but, if you can suggest how to minimise writes,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > please
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > do.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > In the EWF component settings in Target Designer I selected
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > 'optimised' - I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > can't believe that selecting 'Use less overlay space and less writes'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > make enough of a difference on RAM of this size - unless you can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > suggest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > otherwise? However, I will rebuild the image and create the CDs with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > latter option whilst waiting for a kind soul to make some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > suggestions.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Thanks,
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