Re: Creating El-torito image with two partition from Nero.

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From: Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\) (sbrcin_at_ptt.yu)
Date: 09/22/04 

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:29:04 +0200

Glad to hear that it work.

One question. What EWF QFE version do you use?
AFAIK with RAM overlay EWF partition size is ignored.

Best regards,
Slobodan

"Anthony" <Anthony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9CB262F0-9D96-4F74-8272-DC82E6E3652F@microsoft.com...
> Hello Slobodan and GregG,
> After struggling with Eltorito + Data files, finally I got it works, by
> combining all your information + Set "Enhanced Write Filter" under "EWF
> partition size in kbytes" I set it to be 50kbytes and it works well
> A special thanks to all of you like Slobodan and GregG for all your
> help. I really appreciate it.
> Best regards,
> Anthony
> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
>
> > > I think maybe your current problem was the booting CD was assigned the
> > > wrong drive letter.
> >
> > It should not be a problem, unless he choose to ignore me, you and all MS docs.
> > But since he said: "use regedit to delete all "\\??\volume..." "
> > If this is only thing he did then you are 100% right about volume letter assignment.
> >
> > > 1) Do the "etprep -delete" before starting regedt32
> > Instead of this step it is safer and better to configure EWF not to use temporary partition from TD.
> >
> > > 3) Slobodan's suggestion to just delete all the entries should work
> > > too as the booting CD will get drive C assigned to it. Probably the
> > > best approach at least to get you going.
> >
> > Deleting all is probably the best approach, unless you want specific HDD volumes to use certain volume letters. But since Torito
> > disk is independent then this probably in not a case.
> >
> > > 4) You may get this error also if the data you put on the read-only
> > > portion of the boot CD differs from that present on the 1st boot CD.
> > There are no relevance about the data content of first and second CD. First cd can be without any data just partitioned and
> > formatted.
> >
> > > By the way, I'm only using regedt32 directly because I could never get
> > > "etprep -all" to work correctly.
> >
> > You can use reg.exe and call in from bat file to save some time.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > > GregG
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:55:10 -0700, "Anthony"
> > > <Anthony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi Slobodan,
> > > > After FBA completed
> > > >ewfmgr C: -enable
> > > >use regedit to delete all "\\??\volume..."
> > > >etprep -delete
> > > >reboot
> > > >Use Nero to make RNG image
> > > >use your utility Elsigfix image.nrg
> > > >got message
> > > >C:\down load\Eltorito>elsigfix image.nrg
> > > >EL Torito Image file signature patcher.
> > > >Made by Slobodan Brcin
> > > >
> > > >EL TORITO 17==17> 20
> > > >Arnes Boot Record
> > > >MBR begin at sector 215
> > > >Prev Disk Signature> 45 4C 54 4F 'ELTO'
> > > >MBR patch sucessfull
> > > >
> > > >burnt back to CD
> > > >and got error message.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >Anthony
> > > >"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Anthony,
> > > >>
> > > >> You did not activated EWF, or EWF is not working for some reason.
> > > >> You should configure EWF trough registry only without temporary partition, and make sure that you activate EWF before last
> > shutdown.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you describe how did you configured EWF, exactly, and how did you activated it, step by step?
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> Slobodan
> > > >>
> > > >> "Anthony" <Anthony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:62FC726A-1423-441F-97BE-C1BFFA3EDD07@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > Hi Slobodan,
> > > >> > Thank you very much for your help, every seems fine but one more error
> > > >> > message right after XPe OS boot up, the error message is "Windows -Delayed
> > > >> > Write Failed" and its text error "Windows was unable to save all the data for
> > > >> > the C:. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by the failure of
> > > >> > your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to save this file
> > > >> > else where", after I pressed OK button, the OS will automatically reboot.
> > > >> > I tried to set the EWF component set the optimization option to 'Use Less
> > > >> > Overlay Space & Less Writes', but the problem is still around
> > > >> > Is there any ideas?
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Anthony
> > > >> > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi Anthony,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Nero 5.5.9.0 and 6.3.0.2 both have option accessible from menu Recorder->Choose Recorder
> > > >> > > Or press Ctlr+R and when dialog open you will have a list of available recording devices one of them is "Image
Recorder".
> > > >> > > So your version also must have this option.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Can you find option Recorder in menu bar?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Best regards,
> > > >> > > Slobodan
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "Anthony" <Anthony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A969E38A-CDAF-47E5-8783-35D0F85D6C0F@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > > > Hi GregG and Slobodan,
> > > >> > > > Slobodan is right, I missed to burn the ISO by using Image Recodrer
> > > >> > > > Device, I could not find any Image Recorder Device Option on Nero, my Nero's
> > > >> > > > verion is 6.0.0.0 I wonder what's your Nero's version? I already order the
> > > >> > > > lastest Nero version now. Hopefully, it works this time
> > > >> > > > 4) Have Nero create an ISO image file using Image Recorder device.
> > > >> > > > Anyway, thanks for everythings, you guys are great
> > > >> > > > Best regards,
> > > >> > > > Anthony
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > "GregG" wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Anthony,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Here's my procedure which has worked pretty much every time. Hope you
> > > >> > > > > can adjust to your situation. Forgive the length.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Assumption: You're using two drives (one with regular XP and your XP/e
> > > >> > > > > design software; the second is the target device). If you're juggling
> > > >> > > > > partitions on a single disk, specifics change. I'm using the standard
> > > >> > > > > XP Explorer interface so need a fairly large partition even before my
> > > >> > > > > application is added. Also, I'm using the standard EWF components,
> > > >> > > > > not Slobodan's modified component (nothing wrong with it, I just don't
> > > >> > > > > use it).
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > 1) Create 2 primary partitions on target disk; format both as FAT,
> > > >> > > > > make 1st active. Example: both are 600MB but keep the test load on the
> > > >> > > > > 2nd small so you can do simple test on CD's not DVD's.
> > > >> > > > > 2) Use Target Designer to build image on 1st partition; load read-only
> > > >> > > > > CD portion onto 2nd partition. I set EWF to start disabled.
> > > >> > > > > 3) Use Nero to start a bootable CD compilation using 1st partition and
> > > >> > > > > add files from 2nd partition to data part of the compilation.
> > > >> > > > > 4) Have Nero create an ISO image file using Image Recorder device.
> > > >> > > > > 5) Run Slobodan's tool to set disk signature of ISO file.
> > > >> > > > > 6) Restart Nero and burn ISO file to CD; this is your 1st boot CD that
> > > >> > > > > must be present during FBA so Torito.sys can initialize correctly
> > > >> > > > > during the plug & play portion.
> > > >> > > > > 7) Shutdown and boot off target disk through FBA. Should reboot
> > > >> > > > > twice. Must have 1st boot CD online.
> > > >> > > > > 8) After FBA completes, on target, open cmd window and look at
> > > >> > > > > fbalog.txt in c:\windows\fba; Near the end, you should see it identify
> > > >> > > > > the Nero CD as El Torito and EWF should end with 0 status.
> > > >> > > > > 9) Do any other post-FBA steps (keep simple for this test).
> > > >> > > > > 10) Prepare target for burning. My steps are: make sure 1st boot CD
> > > >> > > > > is present and seen as El Torito, open cmd and verify EWF is running
> > > >> > > > > and disabled. Use "ewfmgr c: -enable", then "etprep -delete". Start
> > > >> > > > > REGEDT32, go to HLM\System\Mounted Devices, delete all the
> > > >> > > > > "\\??\volume..." entries & the entry for the C: drive. Rename the El
> > > >> > > > > Torito drive entry to be C:. Exit
> > > >> > > > > 11) Turn off computer.
> > > >> > > > > 12) Reboot off development disk with target back to being data.
> > > >> > > > > 13) Repeat steps (3) to (6) except this time you should have the real
> > > >> > > > > thing, a bootable XP/e CD.
> > > >> > > > > 14) Try it; good luck & hope your situation is close enough to mine
> > > >> > > > > that these steps make sense to you.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > GregG
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:17:03 -0700, "Anthony"
> > > >> > > > > <Anthony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >Hi Slobodan,
> > > >> > > > > > I thought may be I did some thing wrong during the El Torito Process? I
> > > >> > > > > >got your new ElSigFix.zip and when I ran yours, it seems sucessfully
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >C:\down load\Eltorito>elsigfix fina1l.iso
> > > >> > > > > >EL Torito Image file signature patcher.
> > > >> > > > > >Made by Slobodan Brcin
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >EL TORITO 17==17> 19
> > > >> > > > > >Microsoft Corporation , U???
> > > >> > > > > >MBR begin at sector 23
> > > >> > > > > >Prev Disk Signature> 45 4C 54 4F 'ELTO'
> > > >> > > > > >MBR patch sucessfull
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >But when I made a bootable CD, the CD still not boot, I really wonder why? I
> > > >> > > > > >already contacted with Microsoft but it looks like you are the only one for
> > > >> > > > > >my hope?
> > > >> > > > > >Beside that, with your previous suggestions, modified 0x1B8-0x1BB to ELTO
> > > >> > > > > >with NRB file (NERO), but the problem still the same. I used Nero 6.0.0.0,
> > > >> > > > > >what is your Nero version?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >Thanks a lots
> > > >> > > > > >Anthony
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