Re: Starp up sequence

Keep having fun, Curt.

The OP was a CDO poster, they probably can't find their way back here.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:96132B8F-A6DB-49EF-BD48-F5B50E7095A5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
CurtB <CurtB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
> Wesley, whether the original poster figured out a solution to his problem
> or not, I found your post to be informative. It will provide a helpful
> research reference in the future. Thanks for the information. Curt
>
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>
>> Curt,
>>
>> No such place as
>> C:\windows\start menu\programs\startup
>> (windows 95 or 98 maybe?)
>>
>> It is either
>> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>> or
>> %homepath%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>> which is the same as
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>
>> Win.ini
>> C:\windows\win.ini
>> I addressed this:
>> 6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
>> 7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
>>
>> If the following list isn't long enough for you...
>> Download and install Autoruns.
>> Select Include Empty Locations in the Options menu to see all the
>> locations.
>>
>> Sysinternals Freeware - Autoruns
>> http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html
>>
>> Here is my longer version, which is not all inclusive either...
>>
>> Execution Order for starting programs
>>
>> From various sources.
>>
>> Before Logon
>>
>> RunServicesOnce
>> 1) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
>> RunServicesOnce
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
>> RunServicesOnce
>>
>> RunServices
>> 2)
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
>>
>> <Logon Prompt>
>>
>> RunOnce Local Machine Key
>> [[With the exception of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\...\RunOnce key, all keys
>> and their entries are loaded asynchronously. Therefore, all entries in
>> the RunServices and RunServicesOnce keys can potentially run at the same
>> time.
>>
>> Entries in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\...\RunOnce key are loaded
>> synchronously in an undefined order.
>>
>> Because the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\...\RunOnce key is
>> loaded synchronously, all of its entries must finish loading before the
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\...\Run, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\...\Run,
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\...\RunOnce, and Startup Folder entries can be loaded.
>>
>> Because of different system configurations (such as a computer that is
>> configured to automatically log on), any application that is dependant
>> upon other applications that are executed under these keys having
>> completed must be prepared to wait until these applications are
>> complete.]]
>>
>> [[The RunOnce keys are ignored under Windows 2000 and Windows XP in Safe
>> Mode.]]
>> 3) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
>> RunOnce\Setup
>> 4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>> 5)
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
>>
>> 6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
>> 7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
>>
>> Run keys. By default these keys are not executed in Safe mode. If you
>> prefix a value in these keys with an asterisk, *, it will run in Safe
>> Mode. 8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>> 9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>>
>> All Users Startup Folder
>> 10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>
>> User Profile Startup Folder
>> 11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your user name\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>
>> RunOnce Current User Key
>> [[The RunOnce keys are ignored under Windows 2000 and Windows XP in Safe
>> Mode.]]
>> 12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>>
>> Explorer Run
>> From Group Policy
>> Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative
>> Templates\System\Logon\
>> Run these programs at user logon
>> [[Note: This setting appears in the Computer Configuration and User
>> Configuration folders. If both settings are configured, the system starts
>> the programs specified in the Computer Configuration setting just before
>> it starts the programs specified in the User Configuration setting.]]
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
>> Explorer\Run
>>
>> From Group Policy
>> Local Computer Policy\User Configuration\Administrative
>> Templates\System\Logon\
>> Run these programs at user logon
>> [[Note: This setting appears in the Computer Configuration and User
>> Configuration folders. If both settings are configured, the system starts
>> the programs specified in the Computer Configuration setting just before
>> it starts the programs specified in the User Configuration setting.]]
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
>> Explorer\Run
>>
>> UserInit Key This key specifies what program should be launched right
>> after a user logs into Windows. The default program for this key is
>> C:\windows\system32\userinit.exe. Userinit.exe is a program that restores
>> your profile, fonts, colors, etc for your username.
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit
>>
>> Load Key - This key is not commonly used anymore, but can be used to auto
>> start programs.
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\load
>>
>> Notify - This key is used to add a program that will run when a
>> particular event occurs. Events include logon, logoff, startup, shutdown,
>> startscreensaver, and stopscreensaver. When Winlogon.exe generates an
>> event such as the ones listed, Windows will look in the Notify registry
>> key for a DLL that will handle this event.
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify
>>
>> Also Load, Run & Shell
>>
>> AppInit_DLLs - This value corresponds to files being loaded through the
>> AppInit_DLLs Registry value.
>>
>> The AppInit_DLLs registry value contains a list of dlls that will be
>> loaded when user32.dll is loaded. As most Windows executables use the
>> user32.dll, that means that any DLL that is listed in the AppInit_DLLs
>> registry key will be loaded also. This makes it very difficult to remove
>> the DLL as it will be loaded within multiple processes, some of which
>> can not be stopped without causing system instability. The user32.dll
>> file is also used by processes that are automatically started by the
>> system when you log on. This means that the files loaded in the
>> AppInit_DLLs value will be loaded very early in the Windows startup
>> routine allowing the DLL to hide itself or protect itself before we have
>> access to the system. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\Windows
>>
>> ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad This Registry contains values in a similar
>> way as the Run key does. The difference is that instead of pointing to
>> the file itself, it points to the CLSID's InProcServer, which contains
>> the information about the particular DLL file that is being used.
>>
>> The files under this key are loaded automatically by Explorer.exe when
>> your computer starts. Because Explorer.exe is the shell for your
>> computer, it will always start, thus always loading the files under this
>> key. These files are therefore loaded early in the startup process
>> before any human intervention occurs.
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
>> ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad
>>
>> 13) SharedTaskScheduler
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\
>> SharedTaskScheduler
>>
>> [[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
>> However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above. In
>> other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous group
>> is still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to
>> say what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible to
>> predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For
>> instance, you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position
>> with each boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]
>>
>> [[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order,
>> as some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous groups
>> can overlap each other.]]
>>
>> Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order
>> in 10 and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
>> shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.
>>
>> For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order. To
>> change the order rename to aghj.exe,bdfg.exe and cfgh.exe. They would
>> then start in that order.
>>
>> The following are files that programs can autostart from on bootup:
>>
>> 1. c:\autoexec.bat
>> 2. c:\config.sys
>> 3 . windir\wininit.ini - Usually used by setup programs to have a file
>> run once and then get deleted.
>> 4. windir\winstart.bat
>> 5. windir\win.ini - [windows] "load"
>> 6. windir\win.ini - [windows] "run"
>> 7. windir\system.ini - [boot] "shell"
>> 8 . windir\system.ini - [boot] "scrnsave.exe"
>> 9. windir\dosstart.bat - Used in Win95 or 98 when you select the
>> "Restart in MS-DOS mode" in the shutdown menu.
>> 10. windir\system\autoexec.nt
>> 11. windir\system\config.nt
>> ========================
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\state
>> bootini
>> services
>> startup
>> system.ini
>> win.ini
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\win.ini
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\system.ini\boot
>> Shell
>> REG_SZ
>> SYS:Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\win.ini
>> Winlogon
>> REG_SZ
>> SYS:Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\IniFileMapping\win.ini\Windows
>> AppInit_DLLs
>> REG_SZ
>> SYS:Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:7A52AA40-D21E-458B-807E-774ABAF17AB9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>> CurtB <CurtB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
>>> Wesley, that is some useful information I copied and saved for future
>>> reference. I realize your list was not meant to be all-inclusive and
>>> neither is mine, but here are a few other places I found. This brings
>>> the total number of places where program start up can occur to 23 and
>>> counting. Curt
>>>
>>> All Users Startup Folder
>>> C:\windows\start menu\programs\startup
>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>>
>>> Registry Local Machine RunOnceEx
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
>>>
>>> Registry Current User RunServices
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
>>>
>>> Registry Local Machine Policies\Explorer\Run
>>>
>>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explor
>> er\Run
>>>
>>> Registry Current User Policies\Explorer\Run
>>>
>>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explore
>> r\Run
>>>
>>> UserInitKey
>>>
>>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\User
>> init
>>>
>>> Load Key
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
>>> NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\load
>>>
>>> Win.ini
>>> C:\windows\win.ini
>>>
>>> System.ini
>>> C:\windows\system.ini
>>>
>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depends on where the programs start from.
>>>>
>>>> Execution Order for starting programs
>>>>
>>>> With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
>>>> they are executed in the following order:
>>>>
>>>> Before Logon
>>>> 1)
>>>>
>>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
>>>> 2)
>>>>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
>>>>
>>>> After Logon
>>>> 3)

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