Re: Shortcut keys cannot be re-used
From: Wesley Vogel (123WVogel955_at_comcast.net)
Date: 11/26/04
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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:02:23 -0700
Kool, David!
Beats the hell out of trying to use calculator to convert hex values from
the wrong registry locations. <LOL> Thank you!
I placed both FindHotkey.vbs & FindHotkeys.bat in C:\. Created a shortcut
to FindHotkeys.bat.
Double click FindHotkeys.bat shortcut rendered the following info. You may
get a kick out of the first one. By the way, I use Alt+Ctrl+X for
ClearClipboard.exe all the time.
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VBScript
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C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\UTILITIES\ClearClipboard.exe.lnkAlt+Ctrl+X
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OK
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COMPUTER DOCUMENTS.lnkAlt+Ctrl+C
Post OE.lnkAlt+Ctrl+P
UTILITIES.lnkAlt+Ctrl+U
WINDOWS EXPLORER.lnkAlt+Ctrl+E
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\UTILITIES\regedit.exe.lnkAlt+Ctrl+R
--- Ramesh is correct. "Watch David like a hawk", Ramesh, Microsoft MVP. -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes In news:%236wMCO40EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl, David Candy <.> hunted and pecked: > It's worked out at boot time. Put that script into c:\ and the bat > file then type > > c:\findhotkey.bat > > I had %1 instead of %A at the end of the line. Attached it as a bat > file. > > Then you need to do clean boot troubleshooting > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434&FR=1&PA=1&SD=HSCH >> Hi David, >> Well, I managed to install TweakUI 1.33. It installs as a Control >> Panel icon, which I didn't expect. >> >> The Repair Hotkeys item was present, but using it made no >> difference, even after restarting. The Ctl-Alt-R combination still >> opens the Nero BurningRom Manual even there is no shortcut present >> with this set. >> >> I can't get your scripts to run - clearly there is something I am >> doing wrong. However, if they are intended to return the hotkeys for >> all shortcuts on the desktop and Start Menu, I can actually look at >> what is set one by one, although the fact that a key is retained >> after the shortcut is deleted means this may not give all the info. >> needed. >> >> At stage, solving this looks like being in the "too hard" basket >> >> Ah well, these are the mysteries of XP :-) >> >> Cheers >> "David Candy" wrote: >> >>> All tweakui have features that the other don't. 1.33 was written >>> for new features introduced with Win ME / Win 2000. It's the only >>> version to repair hotkeys. >>> >>> If you want to edit Add/Remove you need the first Tweakui for 95. >>> >>> My whole point of joining in was to say those registry keys are >>> probably irrelevent. >>> >>> When starting a program one can specify a hotkey for the main >>> window. A program can register a hotkey for it's own main window. >>> Or it can register global hotkeys (ie not just for the main >>> window). >>> >>> None of these are shortcut hotkeys. They are registered in memory. >>> Presumbably Explorer is registering global hot keys on startup and >>> then starts the whatever when windows tells explorer it has been >>> pressed. But that's a guess. >>> >>> I've attached a script that prints hotkey in a msgbox, and include >>> the content in the body here >>> >>> on error resume next >>> set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell") >>> Dim A >>> Dim Ag >>> Set Ag=Wscript.Arguments >>> If Ag.Count > 0 then >>> For x = 0 to Ag.Count -1 >>> A = A & Ag(x) >>> Next >>> End If >>> Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") >>> f=FSO.GetFile(A) >>> set lnk = WshShell.CreateShortcut(A) >>> If lnk.hotkey <> "" then >>> msgbox A & vbcrlf & lnk.hotkey >>> End If >>> >>> To use type cmd in start Run >>> >>> Explorer looks in 4 places for hotkeys, these are read on startup. >>> The hotkey is stored in the shortcut. Only hotkeys on shortcuts in >>> the four locations are live. >>> >>> Type in a command prompt >>> >>> cd %UserProfile%\desktop >>> for %A in (*.lnk) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for %A in (*.pif) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for %A in (*.url) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> cd %AllUsersProfile%\desktop >>> for %A in (*.lnk) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for %A in (*.pif) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for %A in (*.url) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> cd %UserProfile%\Start Menu >>> for /r %A in (*.lnk) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for /r %A in (*.pif) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for /r %A in (*.url) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> cd %AllUsersProfile%\Start Menu >>> for /r %A in (*.lnk) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for /r %A in (*.pif) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> for /r %A in (*.url) do findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> >>> Each shortcut, that has a hotkey, will pop up a dialog with the >>> name of the shortcut and it's hotkey. >>> >>> You may have path problems. To make it work put in c:\ and change >>> >>> for %A in (*.url) do c:\findhotkey.vbs "%1" >>> >>> as all these directory changes may make it difficult for the script >>> to be found (but shorten the amount of typing for the start menu >>> FORs). >>> >>> Ctrl + C Copies the text of a message box to the clipboard. >>> >>> It is not reccommended that Ctrl + Alt be used with Hotkeys. Ctrl + >>> left hand side Alt = Right hand side Alt and enters international >>> characters if using the US International keyboard. Also F12 is >>> reserved for the use of debuggers. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> http://www.uscricket.com >>> "Trevor L." <TrevorL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:483B65BF-8009-4F96-9AA1-44D3A0E11899@microsoft.com... >>>> David, >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> So that is not the right place to look. >>>> >>>> I set the hotkey in the normal way. I created a shortcut to the >>>> Nero Manual on the desktop and then set the key in the shortcut. I >>>> doubt that Nero set anything. >>>> >>>> Yes, it was a shortcut that I deleted, but then I reinstated it >>>> and set the key to "none". I then used the same key in another >>>> program, which I think works the second way, i.e. the program >>>> registers the key. (Although I wonder where!) >>>> >>>> I will have a look at Tweakui Ver 1.33 and see what I can find. I >>>> already have a version of TweakUI (File Version 2.10.0.0). If the >>>> other one is later and has more features, including repairing hot >>>> keys that would be great. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the help to date. >>>> >>>> "David Candy" wrote: >>>> >>>>> The point is they are ONLY multi language hotkeys for use only >>>>> with multi language features. It is Soooooooooo unlikely to be >>>>> under here. >>>>> >>>>> So there are two ways (apart from these multilingual features) of >>>>> setting a hotkey. In shortcuts on Start Menu or Desktop items. By >>>>> a program registering a hotkey when that program is started. >>>>> >>>>> I presume Nero doesn't do this? >>>>> You have checked all shortcuts (after all it could be in a >>>>> shortcut to an item you deleted and Windows found the closest >>>>> match for you)? >>>>> >>>>> Tweakui Ver 1.33 has a repair hotkey feature. >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/NTWorkstation/downloads/PowerToys/Networking/NTTweakUI.asp >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> http://www.uscricket.com >>>>> "Trevor L." <TrevorL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:B44A0D3A-3095-49F6-9D07-C3072C3150C7@microsoft.com... >>>>>> Wes and David, >>>>>> >>>>>> All good things come to an end. >>>>>> >>>>>> I now find that Ctl-Alt-R invokes the old program again - Nero >>>>>> BurningRom Help Manual. (I have restarted the computer since it >>>>>> last worked as I wanted.) >>>>>> >>>>>> The contents of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot >>>>>> Keys follows >>>>>> >>>>>> START >>>>>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys] >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000010] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:02,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:20,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000011] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:04,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:20,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000012] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:02,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:be,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000070] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:02,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:20,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000071] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:04,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:20,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000072] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:03,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:bc,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000200] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:03,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:47,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000201] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:03,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:4b,00,00,00 >>>>>> >>>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000202] >>>>>> "Key Modifiers"=hex:03,c0,00,00 >>>>>> "Target IME"=hex:00,00,00,00 >>>>>> "Virtual Key"=hex:4c,00,00,00 >>>>>> END >>>>>> >>>>>> It is difficult to understand what these mean, but I certainly >>>>>> cannot find any reference to Ctl-Alt-R >>>>>> >>>>>> From what you (David) said, >>>>>> Ctl-Alt should be &H03 >>>>>> R should be &H52 >>>>>> This combination does not appear anywhere! >>>>>> >>>>>> So I assume that the reference to Ctl-Alt-R is not stored in Hot >>>>>> Keys >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> It doesn't have to involve Registry tweaking so long as I can >>>>>> reuse the Key (or any other key, for that matter) . >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Trevor, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See David Candy's post. I mentioned that I couldn't read hex, >>>>>>> he can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glad to hear that you got it sorted out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW, I'm still deciphering David's post. :-) And working on >>>>>>> 49 other things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>>> Wes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In news:D8905772-8EDE-422F-B704-BF118DCB379C@microsoft.com, >>>>>>> Trevor L. <TrevorL@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>>> Zulu and Wes, >>>>>>>> Thanks to you both >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Zulu, >>>>>>>> Yes, I will set the shortcut key as you suggested. >>>>>>>> I will try different keys, including Function keys - sounds >>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wes, >>>>>>>> I have yet to try your suggestions for the Registry, but am >>>>>>>> looking forward to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTW, >>>>>>>> I have managed to assign the key I used before to the new >>>>>>>> program. Whether this is the only way or not or whetehr it >>>>>>>> will continue to work, I don't know, but here is what I did. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I re-created the old Shortcut (it had been deleted) and >>>>>>>> enetered the old shortcut key. I tested it and it worked >>>>>>>> (referring to the old program). I then changed the key in that >>>>>>>> shortcut to "none" and tried the shortcut key again - it did >>>>>>>> nothing (as one would hope). I then allocated the key to the >>>>>>>> new program, tried it, and it worked !! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still have the old shortcut with key set to "none", but >>>>>>>> that's OK - I just moved it a general folder with other >>>>>>>> shortcuts - not the desktop, which I don't want cluttered. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know whether this is worth posting anywhere, as the KB >>>>>>>> article I read (can't remember the number) said keys cannot be >>>>>>>> reallocated, as did you , Wes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Trevor L." wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am disappointed that I can't reassign a shortcut key to >>>>>>>>> another program. As I say, there are only so many >>>>>>>>> combinations one can use before you run out of keys - 26 >>>>>>>>> alpha, 10 numeric (and perhaps the 12 Function keys although >>>>>>>>> I have ever tried these, so I don't know). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have already deleted the shortcut to the Nero Help Manual, >>>>>>>>> but before I did, I made sure that the shortcut key was set >>>>>>>>> to "(none)". Thanks for the info. as to how to find what key >>>>>>>>> is assigned to a particular shortcut, but since changing it >>>>>>>>> to "(none)" and deleting it makes no difference, it sort of >>>>>>>>> doesn't help too much. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you know where the info. is stored as to what shortcut key >>>>>>>>> opens what program? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Because the info. is retained after the shortcut itself is >>>>>>>>> deleted, I would assume that the info. must be stored in the >>>>>>>>> Registry. But I searched the registry for the value >>>>>>>>> "BurningRom" (as the name of the program opened by the >>>>>>>>> shortcut key is "C:\Program >>>>>>>>> Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroBurningRom_Eng.pdf"). But no entry that >>>>>>>>> I found seemed to contain any info. about shortcut key >>>>>>>>> values. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I could edit the registry to remove/change shortcut key >>>>>>>>> assignments, that would solve the problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Once you assign a shortcut key combination for a specific >>>>>>>>>> program, you will not be able to use that key combination >>>>>>>>>> with other programs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Find the Nero Help Manual or the shortcut to same. Delete >>>>>>>>>> the shortcut, if it exists. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Follow the instructions below if no shortcut. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you forget the key combination for your shortcut, you can >>>>>>>>>> follow steps 2 through 3 and review your shortcut keys. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Locate the program file (.exe) or the program's shortcut >>>>>>>>>> icon. Right-click the program file or shortcut, and then >>>>>>>>>> click Properties. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Click the Program tab for an MS-DOS program or the >>>>>>>>>> Shortcut tab for a Windows program. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>>>>>> Wes >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In news:B39E0365-478D-4EF2-AADC-5CE8FB2F9D60@microsoft.com, >>>>>>>>>> Trevor L. <TrevorL@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and >>>>>>>>>> pecked: >>>>>>>>>>> I used to have a Shortcut Ctl-Alt-R which opened a User >>>>>>>>>>> manual (actually for Nero). I no longer want to do this as >>>>>>>>>>> I am fairly used to Nero now and can open it directly when >>>>>>>>>>> I want to, so I changed the key to (none). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I later decided to re-use Ctl-Alt-R to invoke a program >>>>>>>>>>> which will restart the PC. (I changed the setting in this >>>>>>>>>>> program to use this sequence.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But I find that using Ctl-Alt-R still invokes the User >>>>>>>>>>> manual. There was some info. on a Microsoft KB document re >>>>>>>>>>> this problem, but I can't get it to work. I made sure that >>>>>>>>>>> the old Shortcut had (none), then deleted it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As there are limited letters to use with Ctl-Alt, the >>>>>>>>>>> ability to reuse them is important. Can anyone help? >>>>>>>>>>> However, the Ctl-Alt-R sequence still opend the Help Manual.
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