Re: New Disk File Problem

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From: Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\) (user_at_#notme.com)
Date: 08/27/04


Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:20:11 -0700

I don't know. As far as I know, this would only apply if you've set any
group policies, I'm not sure it would apply if you have not. It would
probably have something to do with accessing other disks or drives, possibly
making the drive accessibly to other users. You might also want to right
click the drive and check properties to see if there's anything in the
properties blocking access or changes.

-- 
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"bullwinkel J. Moose" <quincey.nyc@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:uJwE7YBjEHA.1764@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What shoul;d I be doing looking for in group policy.
> -- 
> Regards,
> Werner
> quincey.nyc@nospam.verizon.net
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> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in 
> message news:OSnH98%23iEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Have you set any policies in the Group Policy Editor?  It's the only 
>> other thing of which I'm aware that might stop such access or prevent you 
>> from taking file ownership on drives as you describe.  If that isn't the 
>> issue, you might try disabling any security software you are running (If 
>> you disable the firewall, be sure you are not connected to the Internet. 
>> If you have a broadband connection, disconnect the modem from your system 
>> first) and see if you then can make the changes.
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> "bullwinkel J. Moose" <quincey.nyc@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>> news:erUsSq%23iEHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Michael, I want to thank you for taking the time to help.
>>>
>>> But, I am running Windows XP PROFESSIONAL sp2.
>>>
>>> Ok I did go into safe mode and interestingly the deskto, call it 
>>> werner's desktop was not listed.
>>>
>>> As for the rest of your instructions, I have unchecked the enable simple 
>>> file sharing. But it made no difference.
>>>
>>> I have the administrators desktop and one called W&J's desktop. Both of 
>>> these allow me to go into the windows explorer for the  2 logical drives 
>>> that are closed off to me in werner's desktop.
>>>
>>> It just happens that werner's desktop is the one that my wife and I use 
>>> all the time.
>>>
>>> I'm becoming very frustrated here. I consider myself a power user. I 
>>> have 2 HDD's in the computer and a 3rd as an external HD. But the 
>>> problem occurs in the external and the second hard drive in the 
>>> computer. It also occurs in the floppy drive but only on werner's 
>>> desktop.
>>>
>>> Can you try again for me please.  Thanks
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Werner
>>> quincey.nyc@nospam.verizon.net
>>> Remove "Nospam" when e-mailing
>>> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in 
>>> message news:ebxmJlyiEHA.1348@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> If you have  XP Home Edition, you have to go to Safe Mode as mentioned 
>>>> in the first part of the instructions I posted as follows:
>>>> XP-Home
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard wired for "Simple 
>>>> File
>>>> Sharing" at system level.
>>>>
>>>> However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode.  Reboot, and 
>>>> start
>>>> hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
>>>> options is Safe Mode.  Select it.  Note, it will ask for the 
>>>> administrator's
>>>> password.  This is not your administrator account, rather it is the
>>>> machine's administrator account for which users are asked to create a
>>>> password during setup.
>>>>
>>>> If you created no such password, when requested, leave blank and press
>>>> enter.
>>>>
>>>> Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the view tab, scroll 
>>>> to
>>>> the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File Sharing" 
>>>> deselect it
>>>> and click apply and ok.  If it shows nothing or won't let you make a 
>>>> change,
>>>> move on to the next step.
>>>>
>>>> Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go to the 
>>>> Security
>>>> tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the user that was 
>>>> logged
>>>> on when you were refused permission to access the files.  Click apply 
>>>> and
>>>> ok.  Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and type in the 
>>>> name of
>>>> the user you just enabled.  If you wish to set ownership for everything 
>>>> in
>>>> the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the following selection:
>>>> "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it as well.
>>>>
>>>> Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish with these files 
>>>> when
>>>> you log back on as that user.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>>>> Windows Shell/User
>>>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>>>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>>>
>>>> "bullwinkel J. Moose" <quincey.nyc@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>>>> news:uxLZPzxiEHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thank you you have given me lots of info.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Windows xpsp2. This problem existed before i installed sp2 
>>>>> which went very smoothly.I have several accounts. The main admin 
>>>>> account which is visible in the logon screen. I have 3 other desktops 
>>>>> all of which are set for admin rights. What I will do is delete 2 of 
>>>>> them. The 3rd I cannot delete and the fourth is my working desktop 
>>>>> which my wife shares.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have gone to windows explorer tools and selected folder options and 
>>>>> the view tab. The simple file sharing is not selected. and apply does 
>>>>> not ungrey and I click ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'm being dense but nothing's working. Can you try again for 
>>>>> windows xp-sp2?
>>>>>
>>>>> I sure would appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote 
>>>>> in message news:%23A%23xDFwiEHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The issue is not what you used to create the partition, the issue is 
>>>>>> likely one of file ownership:
>>>>>> This sounds like a file ownership issue related to NTFS.  Note, file 
>>>>>> ownership and permissions supersede administrator rights.  How you 
>>>>>> resolve it depends upon which version of XP you are running.
>>>>> I've cut out the windows xp home section.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> XP-Pro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited account to 
>>>>>> administrative.  First, go to Windows Explorer, go to Tools, select 
>>>>>> Folder Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File 
>>>>>> Sharing" is not selected.  If it is, deselect it and click apply and 
>>>>>> ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you wish everything in a specific folder to be accessible to a 
>>>>>> user, right click the folder, select properties, go to the Security 
>>>>>> tab, click Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
>>>>>> select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of the box, 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> should see a check box for "Replace owner on subcontainers and 
>>>>>> objects,"
>>>>>> place a check in the box and click apply and ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The user should now be able to perform necessary functions on files 
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> folder even as a limited account.  If not, make it an admin account 
>>>>>> again,
>>>>>> right click the folder, select Properties, go to the Security tab and 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> sure the user is listed in the user list.  If not, click add and type 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has all the 
>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>> permissions checked in the permission list below the user list, click 
>>>>>> apply
>>>>>> and ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That should do it and allow whatever access you desire for that 
>>>>>> folder even
>>>>>> in a limited account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>>>>>> Windows Shell/User
>>>>>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>>>>>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "bullwinkel J. Moose" <quincey.nyc@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:%239Rd4RhiEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I have added an additional Hard Drive to my system. I have 
>>>>>>>partitioned it using Partition Magic. I run Windows XP-Sp2 with no 
>>>>>>>problems. I made several partitions on this drive also with no 
>>>>>>>problems an I can see them in Windows Explorer. When I am running an 
>>>>>>>"Administrator" desktop I can add/remove/move etc files into the new 
>>>>>>>logical drives.
>>>>>>> BUT when I am running in my main user desktp which has administrator 
>>>>>>> priveledges I cannot write to or change or delete programs or files 
>>>>>>> from the new partitions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that there is somewhere in XP a rule or something which will 
>>>>>>> let me change the rules so that I can manipulate these partitions 
>>>>>>> normally from my main user desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any advice or help gratefully appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 


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