Re: need to remove unewanted folders on backup F drive

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You're welcome.

Nepatsfan

In news:eKq1rxaZHHA.3268@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Robert J. Lafayette <xyz1234@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Great information and assistance.

3% on the 250GB is fine. But may raise to as high as 10% for
comfort
sake.
I feel better and assured all is well with my newly formatted
setup.

Thank you once again.

Regards,
Robert




The Recycler folder is a hidden systems folder. It's only
visible if
you go into Folder Options and change the appropriate
settings. Each
hard drive partition on your computer that's formatted NTFS
will
have a Recycler folder. Within that folder will be a Recycle
bin for
each of the user accounts that have logged on to your
computer. If
you delete the Recycler folder Windows will, as you've seen,
recreate it when you reboot. Translated, what you're seeing
is
normal. FYI, you should adjust the size allocated for the
Recycle bin on
your F drive so that there is room for the largest size file
you
might want to recover. With 3% allocated on your 250GB,
should you
try to delete a file that's larger than 7GB, Windows will
tell you
the file is too large to fit in the Recycle bin and asks if
you want
to permanently delete it, effectively bypassing the Recycle
bin.
Translated, if none of the files on your F drive are greater
than
7GB, 3% is fine. If not, you might want to adjust the
allocation to
a higher percentage. As for the System Volume Information
folder, it's also a hidden
systems folder that will be recreated if deleted. Even if
you've
turned off System Restore monitoring for your F drive,
you'll still
see that folder. By default, you can't delete this folder.
If you
right click on it and select Properties from the menu it
will, by
default, show 0 KB for its size. To view the actual size of
this
folder, boot into Safe Mode and use the procedure I outlined
earlier
to give the Administrators group Full Control permissions to
this
folder. When you reboot you will now see the actual size of
the
folder displayed in its Properties ***. Bottom line is
that what you are now seeing on your F drive is normal
behavior.

Nepatsfan


In news:OSRHamZZHHA.4616@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Robert J. Lafayette <xyz1234@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nepatsfan,

Thank you,
Did as you suggested and the Recycler folder deleted in
Safe mode as
did the System Volume Information folder.

But when I went back into Regular Start up mode a shaded
System
Volume Information Folder was there (but was previously
gone when
in SAFE mode) and I attempted to delete it and then a new
shaded
Recycler folder immediately appeared, along with an
inaccessible
shaded System Volume Information folder.

I never before saw these two folders on this F drive before
this
formatting the C drive (reinstall of XP Home) and backup to
the F
drive which I did over the weekend to accommodate the
format in case
of a problem.
If these two folders have inconsequential amounts of data
so be it,
but I do wish to control the computer and not have folders
that do
not belong on the F drive. Or do they belong?

(Is it possible they were there all along and a setting was
existing
that did not allow showing hidden folders?)

I went back and made sure the Recycle bin allowed a very
small
percentage (3%) on the F drive, but again don't recall ever
seeing
this shaded Recycler folder or the shaded System Volume
Information
folders on the F drive before this recent reformat
exercise.

By the way, your suggestion about simply using in cmd "f:"
worked
beautifully and the drive changed to F.

Further Suggestions?

Do I care about the Recycler and the System Volume
Information
folders on the F drive?

Thanks again,
Robert


"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uKpWV4YZHHA.808@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In news:Or$%23srVZHHA.4008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Robert J. Lafayette <xyz1234@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Posted this in MS XP General forum and the only one
posted
solution was to reformat the backup (F) drive which is
not
possible at this time: it is functional with all my
documents and
pictures. My C drive is not large enough to move the data
over to reformat
the F ( backup) drive.

The problem:

OS- XP Home, SP 2

Four year old computer,
Last week I did a reformat of my C drive, and
appropriately backed
my C drive up, my
whole C drive,

to an external 250GB HDD, 'F' drive just in case.

Did several backups-- again, just in case.

The reformat and clean install of XP Home and SP2 went
well onto
my C drive, I installed my
software and things seem fine on the C drive.


Now I wish to remove ALL my backup files/ folders, from
my F
drive, the 250Gb external HDD.

Most files were deleted.

However, there remains two folders, two hidden folders:

1) System Volume Information

Can not even access the System Volume Information folder
on the F
drive at all.

2) Recycler (the one remaining file appears to be 3.2GB,
and the
system seems to have set the size of this file/ folder to
march my
external hdd. I have never seen this folder on my F
drive
before.) Problem is these two folders are not deleting
from my external HDD
(F) and a pop up
message is telling me I can not delete then as they are
being
used, which is not/ should not be
the case.

Please advise the best way for me to access these folders
to
delete them.
I have changed attributes from read only but the hidden
attribute
remains, and some files and folders remain hidden and
disallow
deleting.
Especially the one large file in the F drive Recycler
that will
not go away, that large
3.2GB file.

There is a suggested MS solution to remove a recycled
file, but:

In CMD.exe at C\documents and settings I typed cd f:\ and
the
command to change directories from my c drive to my f
drive does
not take place to allow me to access the file.

This is the MS suggested solution for the elimination of
that
recycler file via DOS prompts.


I am OK with the RECYCLER and System Volume Information
folders
being on my C drive and want to eliminate these folders
only from
my F drive.

Please advise. Any assistance will be greatly
appreciated.

Please be specific as to how to remove these unwanted F
drive
folders if it is at all possible.

Thank you in advance,
Robert

Right click your Recycle Bin icon and select Properties
from the
Menu. On the Global page, select "Configure drives
independently".
Click the tab for your F drive.
Move the slider to the left until it reaches 0%.
Open your F drive and see if you can now delete the
Recycler
folder. If this doesn't work, you're going to have to boot
into
Safe Mode and see if you can delete it.

Next, right click your My Computer icon and select
Properties from
the menu.
Click on the System Restore tab.
In the "Available drives" box, click on your F drive to
highlight
it and hit the Settings button.
Check the "Turn off System Restore on this drive" box.
Click OK.
Click Yes when asked to turn off System Restore for this
drive.

Note: There is no reason to have System Restore monitoring
an
external drive. You want to leave this turned off. Windows
may
recreate the System Volume Information folder on this
drive but it
will take up a minimum amount of space.

If you want to delete this folder, you're going to have to
boot
into Safe Mode and do the following.
Right click the System Volume Information folder.
Select Properties from the menu.
Click on the Security tab.
In the Security page, click on the Add button.
In the box that pops up hit the Advanced button.
Next, hit the Find now button.
In the bottom pane, click on Administrators.
Click OK.
Back at the System Volume Information Properties *** you
should
now see the Administrators group added to the top pane.
In the bottom pane, make sure Full Control is checked.
Click OK.
You should now be able to delete the System Volume
Information
folder. While still in Safe Mode, right click the Recycler
folder
and see if
you can delete it. If not, follow the above procedure to
make sure
you have Full Control permissions. You may also need to
take
ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

"Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a
Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

Here's another article you may find helpful.

How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531

Note: You can go back and reset your Recycle bin to have
one size
for all drives or adjust each drive to your preference. At
the very
least, go back and increase the size of the Recycle bin on
our F
drive to a size greater than 0%.

FYI, the Microsoft article that suggested you enter cd F:\
at the
command prompt was in error. To change to your F drive all
you need
to enter at the prompt is F:. You can leave out the cd
part and the
trailing \. Good luck

Nepatsfan



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