Re: need to remove unewanted folders on backup F drive

Great information and assistance.

3% on the 250GB is fine. But may raise to as high as 10% for comfort sake.

I feel better and assured all is well with my newly formatted setup.

Thank you once again.

Regards,
Robert




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"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The Recycler folder is a hidden systems folder. It's only visible if you
go into Folder Options and change the appropriate settings. Each hard
drive partition on your computer that's formatted NTFS will have a
Recycler folder. Within that folder will be a Recycle bin for each of the
user accounts that have logged on to your computer. If you delete the
Recycler folder Windows will, as you've seen, recreate it when you reboot.
Translated, what you're seeing is normal.

FYI, you should adjust the size allocated for the Recycle bin on your F
drive so that there is room for the largest size file you might want to
recover. With 3% allocated on your 250GB, should you try to delete a file
that's larger than 7GB, Windows will tell you the file is too large to fit
in the Recycle bin and asks if you want to permanently delete it,
effectively bypassing the Recycle bin. Translated, if none of the files on
your F drive are greater than 7GB, 3% is fine. If not, you might want to
adjust the allocation to a higher percentage.

As for the System Volume Information folder, it's also a hidden systems
folder that will be recreated if deleted. Even if you've turned off System
Restore monitoring for your F drive, you'll still see that folder. By
default, you can't delete this folder. If you right click on it and select
Properties from the menu it will, by default, show 0 KB for its size. To
view the actual size of this folder, boot into Safe Mode and use the
procedure I outlined earlier to give the Administrators group Full Control
permissions to this folder. When you reboot you will now see the actual
size of the folder displayed in its Properties ***.

Bottom line is that what you are now seeing on your F drive is normal
behavior.

Nepatsfan


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Robert J. Lafayette <xyz1234@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nepatsfan,

Thank you,
Did as you suggested and the Recycler folder deleted in Safe mode as
did the System Volume Information folder.

But when I went back into Regular Start up mode a shaded System Volume
Information Folder was there (but was previously gone when in SAFE
mode) and I attempted to delete it and then a new shaded Recycler
folder immediately appeared, along with an inaccessible shaded System
Volume Information folder.

I never before saw these two folders on this F drive before this
formatting the C drive (reinstall of XP Home) and backup to the F
drive which I did over the weekend to accommodate the format in case
of a problem.
If these two folders have inconsequential amounts of data so be it,
but I do wish to control the computer and not have folders that do
not belong on the F drive. Or do they belong?

(Is it possible they were there all along and a setting was existing
that did not allow showing hidden folders?)

I went back and made sure the Recycle bin allowed a very small
percentage (3%) on the F drive, but again don't recall ever seeing
this shaded Recycler folder or the shaded System Volume Information
folders on the F drive before this recent reformat exercise.

By the way, your suggestion about simply using in cmd "f:" worked
beautifully and the drive changed to F.

Further Suggestions?

Do I care about the Recycler and the System Volume Information
folders on the F drive?

Thanks again,
Robert


"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Robert J. Lafayette <xyz1234@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Posted this in MS XP General forum and the only one posted solution
was to reformat the backup (F) drive which is not possible at this
time: it is functional with all my documents and pictures.

My C drive is not large enough to move the data over to reformat the
F ( backup) drive.

The problem:

OS- XP Home, SP 2

Four year old computer,
Last week I did a reformat of my C drive, and appropriately backed
my C drive up, my
whole C drive,

to an external 250GB HDD, 'F' drive just in case.

Did several backups-- again, just in case.

The reformat and clean install of XP Home and SP2 went well onto my
C drive, I installed my
software and things seem fine on the C drive.


Now I wish to remove ALL my backup files/ folders, from my F drive,
the 250Gb external HDD.

Most files were deleted.

However, there remains two folders, two hidden folders:

1) System Volume Information

Can not even access the System Volume Information folder on the F
drive at all.

2) Recycler (the one remaining file appears to be 3.2GB, and the
system seems to have set the size of this file/ folder to march my
external hdd. I have never seen this folder on my F drive before.)

Problem is these two folders are not deleting from my external HDD
(F) and a pop up
message is telling me I can not delete then as they are being used,
which is not/ should not be
the case.

Please advise the best way for me to access these folders to delete
them.
I have changed attributes from read only but the hidden attribute
remains, and some files and folders remain hidden and disallow
deleting.
Especially the one large file in the F drive Recycler that will not
go away, that large
3.2GB file.

There is a suggested MS solution to remove a recycled file, but:

In CMD.exe at C\documents and settings I typed cd f:\ and the
command to change directories from my c drive to my f drive does
not take place to allow me to access the file.

This is the MS suggested solution for the elimination of that
recycler file via DOS prompts.


I am OK with the RECYCLER and System Volume Information folders
being on my C drive and want to eliminate these folders only from
my F drive.

Please advise. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Please be specific as to how to remove these unwanted F drive
folders if it is at all possible.

Thank you in advance,
Robert

Right click your Recycle Bin icon and select Properties from the
Menu. On the Global page, select "Configure drives independently".
Click the tab for your F drive.
Move the slider to the left until it reaches 0%.
Open your F drive and see if you can now delete the Recycler folder.
If this doesn't work, you're going to have to boot into Safe Mode
and see if you can delete it.

Next, right click your My Computer icon and select Properties from
the menu.
Click on the System Restore tab.
In the "Available drives" box, click on your F drive to highlight it
and hit the Settings button.
Check the "Turn off System Restore on this drive" box.
Click OK.
Click Yes when asked to turn off System Restore for this drive.

Note: There is no reason to have System Restore monitoring an
external drive. You want to leave this turned off. Windows may
recreate the System Volume Information folder on this drive but it
will take up a minimum amount of space.

If you want to delete this folder, you're going to have to boot into
Safe Mode and do the following.
Right click the System Volume Information folder.
Select Properties from the menu.
Click on the Security tab.
In the Security page, click on the Add button.
In the box that pops up hit the Advanced button.
Next, hit the Find now button.
In the bottom pane, click on Administrators.
Click OK.
Back at the System Volume Information Properties *** you should
now see the Administrators group added to the top pane.
In the bottom pane, make sure Full Control is checked.
Click OK.
You should now be able to delete the System Volume Information
folder. While still in Safe Mode, right click the Recycler folder and
see if
you can delete it. If not, follow the above procedure to make sure
you have Full Control permissions. You may also need to take
ownership of the folder.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

"Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

Here's another article you may find helpful.

How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531

Note: You can go back and reset your Recycle bin to have one size
for all drives or adjust each drive to your preference. At the very
least, go back and increase the size of the Recycle bin on our F
drive to a size greater than 0%.

FYI, the Microsoft article that suggested you enter cd F:\ at the
command prompt was in error. To change to your F drive all you need
to enter at the prompt is F:. You can leave out the cd part and the
trailing \. Good luck

Nepatsfan





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