Re: EMERGENCY: Files lost



Thank you, Shenan. I will answer as follows:

- Yes, my Windows is in Spanish. (I am located in Chile, BTW) And yes, it is
Windows XP Home Edition, with SP2.

- I followed your instructions for "step 6". Problem: NOT all boxes are
checked. The "special permisions" (last box) is not checked and I am unable
to check it under no name or group, because it is dimmed. Anyway, this is the
same, also with the permisions of the folders for which I do not have any
access problems. So, I asume, this would not be the problem?

- The user RS has administrator rights. It is the default user for logging
on in Windows. It is the only user, BTW.

I thank you for your explanations, that helped me understand all this much
better. But, now I think that the problem is not of access rights anymore,
because:

- The ownership and access priviledges indeed solved most of the initial
problem.

- But, I can not access (with the user RS) the files and subfolders under
/my documents/images/adobe/... Strangely, I can access for example /my
documents/images/ZZZ, or other folders and files at that level. So, it is
only one folder (and all its subfolders) that I can not access, now.

- Yesterday I had the problem that I doubleclicked on the .../adobe folder
and I got the "denied access" message. No files were "visible", the folder
properties showed almost no files and storage space. Now, after following
your advises, I doubleclick and I see the contained subfolders. I can even
doubleclick on each of those subfolders and they will open, too. I even "see"
the files in them. But, I can not open any file, no thumbnails are visible.
If I try to open a file, I get no error message, but it will not open.

- I had normal access to all my files only three days ago. How did the
rights change by themselves? The only thing I did is to install a new version
of Photoshop Elements. I even uninstalled it, tried the system restore,
without positive results.

- But one thing that is contraditory is the fact that logging on as
Administrator (save mode), I do have normal access to all files and folders.
(Thanks God the files are there, at least!).

So the posibilities are: I am too unexperienced to setup the access rights
or maybe to stupid to do so. But maybe it is another problem?

Kind regards, Shenan.



"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

Rainer wrote:
It seems that I see another article than you. I click on your link
and see the articles in Spanish. You will not beleve that on the
Spanish version, they skipped that part!!

Good to know.
You have the spanish version of Windows XP I assume?
That's the only way I can think of that it would redirect you. =)

Anyway. Maybe you could please help me with this one: I read the
articles very carefully (in English now, to be sure) and have the
following issues:

- I am not able to disable simplified sharing (article 307874),
becuase there is no "Use simple file sharing (Recomended)" option
under Advanced Settings of the Folder Options. Anyway, I am not
shure that I do have to turn off simple file sharing to solve my
problem.

"Note You cannot turn off simple file sharing in Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition."
If you have Windows XP Home Edition - that's why.
And you are correct - it should not be necessary in your case.

- On article 308421, I read "In the Name list, click your user
name, or click Administrator if you are logged in as Administrator,
or click the Administrators group. If you want to take ownership of
the contents of that folder, select the Replace owner on
subcontainers and objects check box." I did exactly this, but
strangely some (not all!) files and subfolders are still without
access.

Taking ownership is the first part.
You now need to edit the permissions of every file (step 6 on my page. heh)

The #6 is a bit sparse...

Something like this:

1. Right-click the folder that you want to change permissions on, and then
click Properties.
2. Click the Security tab, and then click OK on the Security message (if one
appears).
3. Highlight the Group or user name you wish to modify (Administrators
possibly).
4. In the "Permissions for XXXXXX" (XXX will be replaces with the name of
the highlighted name above) area, make sure *all* boxes are checked.
5. Click Apply.
6. Click on the Advanced button.
7. Check the "Replace permission entries on all child objects with entries
shown here that apply to child objects" box.
8. Click OK.
9. Click OK.

Try to acces them now.

If I compare the security properties of a folder that I do have
access, I see that the owner is the user RS (thats me) and not the
Administrator or Administrators Group. Nevertheless, the user RS
does not appear in the selectiion of possible users to give
ownership to in the folders that if do not have access.

Seeing that - you can change the above to RS if you like. However - is "RS"
an administrator? If so - RS is a member of the "administrators" group. If
you give permissions to the administrators group - as stepped out above -
this may become a moot point.

All you will see in the "ownership" area - where you can grant ownership -
is whatever your user is a member of (and normally the user - I thought.)

So, how do I get RS on the users list to give access on the
folders? Why do you think that giving ownership to Administrator is
not the solution? (RS has administrator rights, also).

Well - the user "administrator" and the group "administrators" are two
different things. And the user "administrator" is not the user "RS" - so
you need to give ownership to "Administrators" and then change the
permissions so that all in the "administrators" group have full permissions
to everything in the folder/subfolders witht he 6 step process I listed
above. You can even ADD a user in the top window (RS) and give them full
permissions.

I hope not to be too confusing. Thank you again for your kind help.

Same here. =) You are welcome.

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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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