Re: SP2 makes XP-Home/SP1 CD useless - other PC problems.

Free..

Re. the OS, I don't remember suggesting that your version is pirated.. re.
Win 98, you told us at some point that you had run the OS for some seven
years, so it was assumed that you may have upgraded at some point in time..

Ensure that you use an HDD diags program to write zeros to the drive.. the
action will ensure that there is no vestige of any former installation.. you
should then do a fresh install.. change no default settings after
installation.. install SP2..

With XP and SP2 installed, connect to the internet and download updates..
this will prove to you that it is possible to get updates with SP2 in place,
just like a whole bunch of others do..

Then install all of your other stuff.. for sure it will take a while, but at
least your system will be working as it should.. if, at any point during the
installation of other software, the computer refuses to access update sites,
you will have a better idea of what is causing the problem..

You can then go to PC Pitstop and check out your machine..

The fact that your camera/scanner wizard no longer works suggests problems
and there may be other functions that you have yet to encounter that also
may not work.. have you tried System Restore?.. if that doesn't work, you
may well have a trojan ore some other nasty lurking in your system..

Re. security settings, they should be set to medium.. if you have tried
changing settings, and there is no ostensible difference in behaviour,
again, a worm or trojan could be responsible..

I assume that your default browser is IE6.. some other browsers do not allow
Windows Updates, and presumably other updates too..

You might also want to disable crap like McAfee Privacy service or any other
third party program of that nature.. other toolbars that may be duplicating
settings that do not allow popups are Yahoo and MSN toolbars.. they should
be discarded.. you might also check that your av or firewall isn't
introducing settings that may stop downloads.. also check that the Windows
Update site is allowed..

Hopefully, you will be able to display this page from the PC Pitstop
website.. it will test and help you to enable ActiveX..

http://www.pcpitstop.com/testax.asp

If I can find out more, or think of something new for you to try, I will
post back here..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"~ FreeSpirit ~" <spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> You click on the bar and wait a few seconds is what you do.. a window
>> appears and you run, save, download, install, whatever.. it even tells
>> you to click on the bar to enable updates etc..
>
> # No window appears 98% of the time. The only a window opens, asks if I
> want to allow the Active-X plugins - I click yes - nothing happens. It
> still doesn't allow the downloads. Sometimes the bar says "click here for
> more information." If I click there the helpfiles open on the Active-X
> page. How much plainer can I make this? A WARNING bar shows at the top
> of the I.E. window with a *yellow shield* saying something about my
> "Active-X control settings not allowing the page to desplay correctly" and
> doesn't allow any downloads or scans from MS, HP or Pitstop. How do I
> STOP this SP2 bar with it's *yellow shield* and Active-X warning from
> coming up and stopping these websites from doing what they normally do?
> It doesn't say to click the bar to enable downloads - it says to *click
> here for more information*. If I click the bar I get the helpfile thing
> opening explaining about Active-X controls. Why is this so hard to
> understand? I'm trying to make it as clear as possible.
>
>> I am beginning to think that you are a troll..
>
> # I assure you Mr. Hall that I have better things to do then post here and
> get insults from people claiming my WXP is pirated or that I'm a troll
> with nothing better to do. I'm here for HELP because I don't know who
> else to ask and can't afford $75+ to a tech every time a problem appears
> on my PC. I live in a rural area and even finding one willing to come out
> here is a real headache.
>
> you have this damn question
>> going down in multiple newsgroups, and you don't listen to anybody.. I
>> see a new entry to the killfile coming on..
>
> # I have listened! What else can I do? I'm trying to explain the
> problem and you're telling me to click on a bar that is not there!!!!!!
> Only a HELP thing appears which opens a helpfile for Active-X information
> and how to make changes. I make the changes and get the same *click here
> for more information* bar when I try again.
>
>> Just click on the bar.. or find something to do other than computing..
>
> # I click on the bar and some helpfile opens and explains some things
> about my Active-X setting. If I change them in Security I still can't get
> the downloads or scans. Is it you only want to handle simple problems
> here? Not all PC problems are simple as any tech can tell you. And doing
> a reformat and reinstall of my OS is a massive job that takes many hours
> because of all the programs and other things on this PC.... I can live
> with the crapped out scanner and camera wizard but this is something more
> serious.
>
> FS~
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "~ FreeSpirit ~" <spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e4GK4nfqFHA.2276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%236Xq$xYqFHA.1096@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Free
>>>>
>>>> As long as you hold dear your preconceptions that Win 98 outperforms
>>>> XP, then you will always have problems..
>>>
>>> $$ I didn't say 98 *OUTPERFORMS* XP. I said I had almost no problems
>>> with 98.
>>>
>>>> If you upgraded from Win 98 to XP the same machine that you have
>>>> happily been using for Win 98, unless you upgraded most of it, then
>>>> many of your problems will be hardware based.. any other problems
>>>> encountered will be down to you being unable to let go of old Win 98
>>>> conventions..
>>>
>>> $$ This HP machine was bought brand new from CompUSA 2 years ago this
>>> month with WXP-Home/SPA already on it.
>>>
>>>> Bear in mind that thousands of people across the world power up XP SP2
>>>> machines daily, and have no problems with them..
>>>
>>> $ Fine - then please tell me how they download updates with the security
>>> bar preventing it at any setting in tools/options/security/advanced
>>> settings? It ignores all settings and there is no window asking if it's
>>> ok to download the Active-X needed. HOW DO I GET DOWNLOADS???
>>>
>>> the problems outlined in
>>>> these newsgroups are a mere drop in the ocean, and do not point to XP
>>>> or SP2 being bad and defective products.. if they were, everybody would
>>>> have continual problems, and this is just not true..
>>>
>>> $ Agreed - now how do I disable the security bar long enough to get the
>>> updates I want? Reading and following the information didn't work.
>>>
>>>> Nobody here will force you to stay with XP.. if you feel that Win 98
>>>> will give you a better deal, then go ahead and re-install it..
>>>
>>> $$ See above.
>>>
>>> this action will
>>>> leave some of us shaking our heads a little, but we are advisors, not
>>>> Net Police..
>>>
>>> $$ Please tell me how to disable SP2 security bar long enough to get
>>> updates. How is this done?
>>>
>>> FS~
>>
>>
>


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