Re: No Audio Device

From: Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP\) (user_at_#notme.com)
Date: 01/21/05


Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:40:37 -0800

You're welcome, John, good luck.

-- 
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"John Murray" <john@MurrayComputing.com> wrote in message 
news:ODuvgj1$EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks again, Michael -
>
> I'm going to see my friend Monday, and will bring the print out of our
> messages with me.
>
> Appreciate all you've done,
> John
> <<>>
>
> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
> news:eU%23x3el$EHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> You friend's approach is a bit drastic considering the problem and he
> really
>> has nothing to lose by first checking for the latest XP compatible 
>> drivers
>> from the manufacturer's website.
>>
>> Here are some things he can do or try before going that far.  He may
> already
>> have made up his mind but I post them for his benefit and the benefit of
>> others as formatting doesn't need to be anything but a last resort since
> XP
>> offers a number of other options as follows:
>>
>> In addition to checking for the latest XP compatible drivers from the
>> manufacturer's website which should be among the first thing a user 
>> tries:
>>
>> First, be sure your antivirus software has the latest definitions and run
> a
>> virus scan.
>>
>> Second, download, install and run Ad Aware:
>> www.lavasoftusa.com
>>
>> If this is a relatively recent issue, you might try using System Restore
> to
>> take you back to a time when this worked properly.  Start\All
>> Programs\Accessories\System Tools\System Restore.  If that doesn't 
>> resolve
>> it, try the information below.
>>
>> The following assumes you have an actual XP CD as opposed to a restore CD
> or
>> restore partition supplied by your PC manufacturer.
>>
>> Go to Start, type sfc /scannow in the run box and press enter.  Note,
> there
>> is a space between sfc and the forward slash.  You will be asked for your
> XP
>> CD.  Be aware, upon inserting the CD the XP setup screen may appear, this
> is
>> not a part of sfc /scannow, rather it is being invoked by autorun. 
>> Simply
>> minimize the screen and allow sfc to continue.
>>
>> If the above fails to resolve the issue, try a repair install as follows:
>>
>> Be sure you are well backed up in case there is a problem from which you
> are
>> unable to recover.  NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data
>> files intact, if something goes wrong during the repair install, you may
> be
>> forced to start over and do a clean install of XP.  If you don't have 
>> your
>> data backed up, you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.
>>
>> Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive, boot with the
> XP
>> CD in the drive.  If it isn't or you are not sure, you need to enter the
>> system's BIOS.  When you boot the system, the first screen usually has
>> instructions that if you wish to enter setup press a specific key, when
> you
>> see that, do so.  Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
>> the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence.
> Save
>> your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive.  The system will
> reboot.
>>
>> Boot from the CD.  If your system is set to be able to boot from the CD,
> it
>> should detect the disk and give a brief message, during the boot up, if
> you
>> wish to boot from the CD press any key.
>>
>> Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin.  You will see a 
>> reference
>> asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
>> wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2.  Just let
>> setup run past all of that.  It will continue to load files and drivers.
>>
>> Then it will bring you to a screen.  Eventually, you will come to a 
>> screen
>> with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
>> using the Recovery console.
>>
>> The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you 
>> to
>> press enter.  When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement.
> Setup
>> will then search for previous versions of Windows.  Upon finding your
>> version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
>> install fresh.  Press R, that will run a repair installation.  From there
>> on, follow the screens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> "John Murray" <john@MurrayComputing.com> wrote in message
>> news:unLLuOk$EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Thanks again, Michael -
>> >
>> > My friend is really frustrated because his sound used to work and now 
>> > it
>> > doesn't, with seemingly no changes to cause the problem. What he has
>> > decided
>> > to do is a complete format/reinstall, so for now I'm going to let him
>> > proceed on his own.
>> >
>> > Appreciate your help,
>> > John
>> > <<>>
>> >
>> > "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uSJBGbZ$EHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> You're welcome.
>> >>
>> >> The installation of an alternative card which had the same issue MIGHT
>> > point
>> >> to something other than the drivers.  However, since the driver were
>> >> installed from the CD with which the soundcard shipped, it might well
> be
>> > the
>> >> same issue.  Drivers become dated quickly which is why we suggest
>> >> checking
>> >> manufacturer's websites for the latest drivers for a device when an
> issue
>> >> such as this comes up.  If the latest drivers don't resolve the issue,
> we
>> >> can partially rule out drivers as the cause.  In both cases, you were
>> > using
>> >> the drivers with which the device shipped as opposed to the latest
>> > drivers,
>> >> hence, both might have the same issue in that regard.
>> >>
>> >> I say partially because the next possibility is that some other device
> on
>> >> the system is conflicting.  You would have to resolve that by process
> of
>> >> elimination, disconnecting and otherwise disabling or uninstalling
> other
>> >> devices one by one until you found the culprit.
>> >>
>> >> One of the things you need to check is whether or not the integrated
>> >> soundcard was disabled when you added the other card.  If it was not,
>> >> that
>> >> could have caused the other card to have the same issue as well.
>> >>
>> >> Something else to consider, if your soundcard and this would apply to
>> > both,
>> >> had special features or if the computer has features that tie sound in
>> > with
>> >> the phone for example, you might need to install the latest drivers 
>> >> for
>> > the
>> >> modem in order to get full function out of the soundcard.  I had just
>> >> such
>> >> an issue on one of my systems wherein, the modem software need to be
>> >> installed as well.  If it wasn't installed, the soundcard would not be
>> > fully
>> >> implemented and get banged out (appear as disabled) in Device Manger
>> > (under
>> >> System, the Hardware tab, in Control Panel).
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >> Windows Shell/User
>> >> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >>
>> >> "John Murray" <john@MurrayComputing.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:e8wOEWY$EHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hello again, Michael -
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for your continuing support -- one thing that may point away
>> >> > from
>> >> > this being a driver issue is that when we installed a separate,
>> > additional
>> >> > sound card (the default is integrated on the motherboard) it did
>> >> > install
>> >> > just fine, including the driver from it's CD, but the situation
>> >> > remained
>> >> > the
>> >> > same: greyed out Sounds and Audio Devices Properties stating "No
> Audio
>> >> > Device". Wouldn't this indicate that it is something other than a
>> >> > driver
>> > ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Your help is definitely appreciated,
>> >> > John
>> >> > <<>>
>> >> >
>> >> > "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uW5yYIS$EHA.3700@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> You're welcome.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You might try the Intel site for updated drivers and/or the system
>> >> >> manufacturer's website as well.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the system has been updated at all, Windows Updates, other
> updates,
>> >> > etc.,
>> >> >> it changes the operating environment.  Eventually, many devices 
>> >> >> that
>> > have
>> >> >> worked just fine right along end up pushed over the line and 
>> >> >> require
>
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> drivers to be updated.  Assuming the card is properly seated in its
>> > slot,
>> >> >> everything you've mentioned points to a driver issue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >> >> Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >> >> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "John Murray" <john@MurrayComputing.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:%23PhCEER$EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Thanks, Michael -- this is an Intel motherboard (D850GB) with
>> >> >> > integrated
>> >> >> > sound, and we have uninstalled then reinstalled the device and
>> > driver;
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > process goes exactly (and smoothly) as it should, but in the end
>> > there
>> >> > is
>> >> >> > still no sound. Also, this system (always Win XP Pro, not an
> upgrade
>> >> > from
>> >> >> > an
>> >> >> > earlier version) worked perfectly for months prior to the sound
>> >> >> > going
>> >> > out,
>> >> >> > so we're still trying to figure out what happened.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > During my searches to find something on this problem I've seen
>> >> >> > literally
>> >> >> > dozens of posts to various tech support groups for this same
>> >> >> > problem,
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > perhaps someone will come across the answer and let the rest of 
>> >> >> > us
>> >> >> > know.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you for your help and your time,
>> >> >> > John
>> >> >> > <<>>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:Oj9fgPO$EHA.3372@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> Have you checked the soundcard manufacturer's website for the
>> >> >> >> latest
>> >> >> >> XP
>> >> >> >> compatible drivers?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> >> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >> >> >> Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >> >> >> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "John Murray" <john@MurrayComputing.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:%23PtsbGy%23EHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > Hello to All -
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Trying to help a friend with his Windows XP Pro SP2 computer
> that
>> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> >> > working just fine, but now there is no sound:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > **
>> >> >> >> > Sounds and Audio Devices Properties is completely greyed out
> and
>> >> >> >> > instead
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > the audio device it shows "No Audio Device"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Everything in Device Manager is ok, no errors, warnings, no
>> > problems
>> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > any
>> >> >> >> > kind, include the integrated sound chipset.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > We have removed, uninstalled and reinstalled devices, drivers,
>> > etc.,
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > change.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > We have installed a separate sound card, which does install,
> but
>> > the
>> >> >> >> > greyed
>> >> >> >> > out "No Audio Device" is still there, no sound!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > We have verified Windows Audio Service is started (automatic)
> and
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Plug
>> >> >> >> > &
>> >> >> >> > Play Software Enumerator files are in tact.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > This machine does not produce sound from any source -- system,
> CD
>> >> >> >> > audio,
>> >> >> >> > web-based music -- except the PC speaker.
>> >> >> >> > **
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The only thing that may have changed would be something from
>> >> >> > WindowsUpdate
>> >> >> >> > (automatic updates are turned on) but we cannot be sure about
>> > this.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Any help appreciated,
>> >> >> >> > John Murray
>> >> >> >> > <<>>
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