Re: Is it OK to disable these Remote services in msconfig?
From: Marcus (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 04/23/04
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:38:56 -0700
Thanks Wes.
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig.
1. Did diagnostic boot = worked
2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked
3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was
a problem with a service, so...
4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it
had enabled = didn't work
5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I
disabled this service = worked
6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now
backing up and rebuilding the machine.
:-(
>-----Original Message-----
>Marcus;
>
>There is no real need to delete the Prefetch files. XP
will
>do that every three boots. Since you cleaned out
>the Prefetch folder, it's gonna take a couple of boots
before
>you notice it speeding up. You didn't delete the Prefetch
>folder, did you?
>
>There are two reasons for Prefetch.
>1) Application-Launch Prefetching
>[[Windows XP also uses prefetching when launching
applications. The files
>and the contents of the files accessed by each new
process are observed and
>recorded. No prefetching can be done for the first
launch of an
>application, so first launches are often considerably
slower than subsequent
>launches. About 85% to 90% of the improvement is
realized after just one
>launch of an application; with the remaining speed
improvement coming after
>the system has had an opportunity to adjust the disk
layout with information
>specific to this application.]]
>
>2) Boot Prefetching
>[[Windows XP speeds up system boot by observing the code
and data needed
>each time the system is booted and prefetching the
necessary file contents
>early in the boot process. This prefetching is not done
until the third
>boot of the system, when sufficient information is
available to make the
>prefetching most effective. The files observed during
system boot will be
>used in the disk layout process mentioned above.
Additional information on
>the prefetcher and the Windows XP boot process can be
found at Fast
>Boot/Fast Resume for the Windows Platform.]]
>
>[[Windows XP "monitors" itself and notices which
applications are launched
>frequently. It gathers information about these
applications and what they
>access with the launch and stores this information in the
prefetch folder.
>It then uses this information to "optimize" access to
these files so that
>they launch faster.
>
>Every three boots, by default, Windows XP will perform a
partial
>defragmentation and adjust the layout of the disk based
upon current use.
>The files to be moved are written in the file
Layout.ini.]]
>
>In Registry Editor:
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Sessio
n Manager\Memory
>Management\PrefetchParameters
>EnablePrefetcher
>Values are:
>0 (disable prefetcher)
>1 (enable application launch prefetching)
>2 (enable boot prefetching)
>3 (enable options 1 and 2)
>====
>
>Why is Windows XP Startup So Slow
>http://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001372.html
>
>--
>Hope this helps. Let us know.
>Wes
>
>In news:2e8701c4288b$f67a6c80$a301280a@phx.gbl,
>Marcus <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and
pecked:
>> OK... Last night I have now done the following, and
start
>> up is still slow!!! Arghh!
>> - Upgraded real player,
>> - disabled the remote services mentioned above,
>> - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
>> - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
>> Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
>> scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice
compaq-
>> rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be
fine
>> from what I've read.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Marcus;
>>>
>>> These are only recommendations.
>>> I have 'em all disabled.
>>> You can disable 'em in Services.
>>> Start | Run | Type: services.msc | OK
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Disabling unnecessary and potentially dangerous
services
>>>
>>> Remote Access Auto Connection Manager - creates a
connection to a
>>> remote network whenever a program references a remote
DNS or NetBIOS
>>> name or address. Disabling the service has no effect
on the rest of
>>> the operating system. You will have to set up
connections to remote
>>> computers manually. Whilst this process is convenient,
unauthorized
>>> applications (such as Trojans) could bring up your
network
>>> connection without your explicit request. Far better
to manually
>>> dial.
>>> Recommendation: Disabled.
>>>
>>> Creates a connection to a network when a program
requests a remote
>>> address. This service may be required for your
internet connection.
>>> If things cease to function after disabling this
service, put it to
>>> automatic. Note: you may require this service for some
direct cable
>>> or DSL providers and connections, depending on how
they implement
>>> their logon process. If your Dial-up, cable or DSL
internet access
>>> no longer functions properly with this service
disabled, place this
>>> service into automatic. If you use a hardware gateway
or router,
>>> this service is not required. ===========
>>>
>>> Remote Access Connection Manager - creates a network
connection.
>>> Recommendation: Automatic if using Dial-Up Networking,
Disabled
>>> otherwise.
>>>
>>> Creates a network connection. This service is required
if you use
>>> Internet Connection Sharing. If things cease to
function after
>>> disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you
may require
>>> this service for some direct cable or DSL providers
and connections,
>>> depending on how they implement their logon process.
If your
>>> Dial-up, cable or DSL internet access no longer
functions properly
>>> with this service disabled, place this service into
automatic. If
>>> you use a hardware gateway or router, this service is
not required.
>>> ----
>>>
>>> Remote Desktop Help Session Manager - Manages and
controls Remote
>>> Assistance. Could create a MAJOR security hole so
disable it unless
>>> absolutely necessity.
>>> Recommendation: Disabled
>>>
>>> Manages and controls Remote Assistance. If you do not
want or need
>>> to use this feature, disable it. In an idle state,
this service
>>> sucks up 3.4 MB to 4 MB of RAM.
>>>
>>> Recommended State: Disabled, for security reasons.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>> Wes
>>>
>>> In news:251d01c427c4$0ce90e90$a301280a@phx.gbl,
>>> Marcus <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted
and
>> pecked:
>>>> See string below for description of problem.
>>>>
>>>> *************
>>>>
>>>> Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
>>>> Access ones?
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed
mine this way
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
>>>>> 2)Under the services tab disable :
>>>>> a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
>>>>> b) Remote Access Conection Manager
>>>>> c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
>>>>> 3) Click Apply and then ok
>>>>> 4) Restart and you should be running fine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "marcus" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>>>>> news:24b201c427bc$2a582090$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
>>>>>> the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
>>>>>> need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,
but I
>>>>>> don't know what else to do....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone here have any solutions???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***********************
>>>>>> Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
>>>>>> 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
>>>>>> Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,
and
>>>>>> everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
>>>>>> starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
>>>>>> Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First I used system restore to a former point. This
worked
>>>>>> for a couple reboots, then it was back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
>>>>>> application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
>>>>>> to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so
I just
>>>>>> unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
>>>>>> work. So I downloaded every windows update
available, and
>>>>>> this didn't work either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
>>>>>> start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
>>>>>> necessary from start up list. This didn't help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
>>>>>> then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest of
>>>>>> the registry. Still didn't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner
drivers can
>>>>>> cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and
plug N
>>>>>> play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but
it
>>>>>> still started up slow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV
2002
>>>>>> works better with a specified or static IP address,
but I
>>>>>> don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon AV,
>>>>>> the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm
not sure
>>>>>> this will help either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
3:30 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
>>>>>> Registered: Jul 10, 2003
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
>>>>>> Last Modified:04/01/2004
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JohnD Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
>>>>>> Registered: Jun 30, 2003
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
>>>>>> assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
>>>>>> Here are a couple of thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
>>>>>> time to boot-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know
if you
>>>>>> have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
>>>>>> the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory and
>>>>>> see if that might help. They will be automatically
>>>>>> recreated if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.
Do you
>>>>>> have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If
you
>>>>>> disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the
Messenger
>>>>>> Service which you dont want running), this can
cause OE to
>>>>>> load very slowly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anonymous Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
>>>>>> 11:21 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read
the KB
>>>>>> note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
>>>>>> file, but apparently I don't have this file
anywhere on my
>>>>>> PC, so this didn't help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
>>>>>> startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
>>>>>> issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
>>>>>> related now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CajunTek Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
>>>>>> 11:25 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
>>>>>> Registered: Oct 7, 2003
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See this
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
kbid=819634
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anonymous Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
>>>>>> 11:26 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John D,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to
the
>>>>>> internet. It waits until everything has started up
to
>>>>>> actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
>>>>>> connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
>>>>>> Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't use outlook express at all. Use office
Outlook, but
>>>>>> it does not start up until launched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start up
>>>>>> automatically, but this did nothing either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
>>>>>> should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that
as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CajunTek Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
>>>>>> 11:34 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
>>>>>> Registered: Oct 7, 2003
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
>>>>>> NIS are having this problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anonymous Re: XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
>>>>>> 11:35 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
>>>>>> Reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cajun Tek,
>>>>>> Read the article and I can try win update again,
but when
>>>>>> I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
>>>>>> windows update, and updated everything listed, even
that I
>>>>>> didn't really need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
>>>>>> then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
>>>>>> not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
>>>>>> this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't
know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message was edited by: Anonymous
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>> .
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