Re: MS Update fpor .NET Framework

as always, thanks js.

i googled bootstrapper and not sure from where i need to download it. and
are you saying it will determine all the framework apps i need to add, then
it does .

yes, i can stay on that long - well, the pc will be on as i may be in the
other room

thanks again js and enjoy your weekend

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"JS" <@> wrote in message news:ejFBmWanJHA.3984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
What you downloaded was a test of the how much time it would take to
download the.
It will fail if you try to install it (which I mentioned not to install),
no harm done.

Now that I know your Internet connection speed
is not all that bad I'll recommend the "bootstrapper"
versions for most of what you need to download.

What is the "bootstrapper" version, basically it's a small
(about 2MB) file that you download and run.
After you start the bootstrapper program it initiates the
download and installation of the .Net service pack over the Internet.

This means you need to remain connected to the Internet
for the entire time required to install the service pack which
could be 20 minutes or more. If this is a problem let me know.

The up side is the bootstrapper only downloads the components
that are need for your PC, so the amount of data/files downloaded
could be less that if you where to download the complete/entire
service pack file to your hard drive.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@StillIStruggle> wrote in message
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thanks js & no, thanks to YOU for your patience with me; i never know one
day to the next how i will feel.

okay, it took right about 1:45 seconds.

thanks again js & take your time - give your eyes a visit from visine !
also, i got this after it dowwnloaded:
None of the products that are addressed by this software update are
installed on this computer. Click Cancel to exit setup.




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"JS" <@> wrote in message news:er7J9vUnJHA.4912@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Do me a favor, since you only have a DSL Internet connection, download
the NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe (8.6MB) file mentioned below and see how
much time it takes. Report the time in minutes back to me. Just download
and time it, do not install the Family Update just yet.

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update for Windows XP x86, and
Windows Server 2003 x86
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6c095bba-6100-4ec9-9c54-6450b0212565&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
**** Note: Disregard the title of the above article ****
Just scroll down the web page to the section titled: "Files in This
Download"
You should see three files listed, the one you want to download is:
32 Bit Windows download File named = NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe (8.6MB)

Again, download this file to your hard drive, time how long it takes but
DO NOT install it.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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great, thank you js - please do provide me the file sizes.

what is a determining factor(s) of how far I want to upgrade ?

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"JS" <@> wrote in message news:OJhXauQnJHA.500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
OK, know that I have your list the question is:
Just how far/much do you want to update?
For example:
Net Framework 1.1 is now at Service Pack 1
Net Framework 2.0 is now at Service Pack 2
Net Framework 3.0 is now at Service Pack 2

The list above also does not include the Family update
for 2.0 and 3.0

I can supply you with a list of the download file sizes
if you want them.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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js, thanks as i just wrote down everything in the add/remove that is
listed:

MS Net Framework 1.1
MS Net Framework 1.1 Hotfix (KB928366)
MS Net Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1
Net Framework 2
Net Framework PreXP
Net Framework CRT
Net Framework 1
Net Framework CA
Net Framework WinForms
Net Framework Dr. Watson
Net Framework ASP.NET
Net Framework CLR
MS Net Framework 3.0 SP1
Net Framework WPF 3 x86
Net Framework WPF 3
Net Framework WCS
Net Framework WCF
Net Framework XPS
Net Framework WPF 2 x86
Net Framework WPF 2
Net Framework WPF 1
Net Framework WF x86
Net Framework WF

that's all that's there js


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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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No problem, I'll wait till things are better for you.


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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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js thjanks but wanted top advise you i am not avoidimg you, rathr,
the neurropathy in my hands has rendered them, well, noit useless,
but its all i can do to do daily things around the hopuse - i look
forward tot getting back on & applying whatg you suggesteed

tyhanks agaiun - enjoy your weekned

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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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OK, grab a paper and pen and go to the Control Panel/Add or Remove
Programs and write down each version of .NET listed.

Use this article as an aid to help identify each version:
"How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are
installed and whether service packs have been applied:"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Once you have your list, download this .ZIP file and run the
executable it contains.
.NET Framework Setup Verification Tool:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8999004.aspx
"This .NET Framework setup verification tool is designed to
automatically perform a set of steps to verify the installation
state of one or more versions of the .NET Framework on a
computer."

You will find a pull down in this tool so you can run the
verification process on each version you have identified.
If all your versions (identified in this list you created) of .NET
pass, then start with the lowest version installed on your PC and
the install the service pack (if it not installed)

If a version "Fails" the test then uninstall that version and
reinstall it.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ok, JS, here ya go:

* the update patch cannot be installed by the windows installer
service because the program to be upgraded may be missing, of the
upgrade patch may update a different version of the program.
verify that the program to be upgraded exists on your computer
and that you have the correct upgrade patch *

ok, 1/2 of 100 words - eyes are as bad as the neuropathy laden
hands

thanks js


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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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Need more detail on the error message!
What was not found?

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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i tried to attach a very small error message & it says "too
large" ! what a crock as i never had this problem in the past as
i could attach & insert screen caps, but since i updated the
Gadwin print screen program it won't allow me to attach/insert
anything !

anyway, i tried the first framework update & got a small error
message that something was not found that would allow it to
install

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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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Start at the top and if already installed just skip past what
you
already have installed.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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hi js

so i just start at the top & work my way down ? & if already
installed, they will either not install or the priors will be
over written ?

thanks again js!

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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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Here is a list of .Net Framework security updates.
Take note that not all apply to Windows XP and
not all are "English" language updates.
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=net%20framework%20security

Most likely these updates will also be available when you
use
"Windows Update", unless you have them already installed.


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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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thanks very much JS, for all the work, the instructions &
patience with me - i'll try this in the next day or two -
not feeling too well

i didn't mention the hotfix, but think i have that - will
double check

enjoy the weekend

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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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This will bring your PC up to date (Less the large .NET
3.5 SP1 download)

Note: When installing each of these Service Packs even
though
the status may indicate the installation has completed and
may
ask you to restart your PC, keep an eye on the hard drive
light
activity or use 'Task Manager' until your PC shows no disk
activity
or task manager show the CPU is in a 'Idle' state for at
least
30 seconds to 1 minute before restarting/rebooting the PC.

Install order.
1) Net Framework Redistributable 1.0 SP2
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3271ACD5-EE3C-4BDF-AE28-56D2DF77151E&displaylang=en
(Includes SP1)

2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.0 Service Pack 3:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6978D761-4A92-4106-A9BC-83E78D4ABC5B&displaylang=en

3) NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A8F5654F-088E-40B2-BBDB-A83353618B38&displaylang=en

4) Net Framework 1.1 hotfix (kb886903)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8EC6FB8A-29EB-49CF-9DBC-1A0DC2273FF9&displaylang=en

5) NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
(You indicated that you already have .Net 2.0 SP1
installed)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b2c0358-915b-4eb5-9b1d-10e506da9d0f&displaylang=en
32 Bit Windows download File is named = NetFx20SP2_x86.exe
(Restart is required)

6) Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update for Windows
XP x86, and Windows Server 2003 x86
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6c095bba-6100-4ec9-9c54-6450b0212565&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
Note: Disregard the title of the article.
Scroll down the web page to the section titled: "Files in
This Download"
You want the 32 Bit Windows download file named =
NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe (8.6MB)
(This is the "Family Update" for .Net 2.0 SP2)

7) There is no stand alone .Net Framework 3.0 SP2 download
file, so you will not be able to
install the "Family Update" for .Net 3.0 as the Family
Update requires that 3.0 SP2 is installed before trying to
install the Family Update, and unfortunately the only way
to install .Net 3.0 SP2 is by downloading and installing
the .NET 3.5 SP1 update that you are trying to avoid.

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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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OK, I'll see if I can give you a list of updates to
install with going all the way and downloading/installing
the entire update.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Again, thanks JS.

Here ya go:

Framework 1.1

Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1

Framework 2

Framework 1

Framework 3.0 SP 1

Then there's a lot of CA, CRT, WPF 3 x86, WCS, WPF,
WP, 1, 2, 3

I don't see the SP 2 in there either.

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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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Just reply by including the Basic entries in the
Add/Remove list.
Example:

Framework v1.0

Framework 1.1

Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2

Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2

Framework 3.5 SP1


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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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ok, I tried a smaller version of the screen cap of the
add/remove re: the framework, but it said it was still
too large ! also, i cannot copy & paste from it, so
when I get back from my dr. appt. I'll try & write
each one down for you, unless you don't need them all.

Again, much thanks! Also, I appreciate your civility.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Great JS, thanks SO much ! Yea, I have DSL, but it's
not the fastest, but I
can go ahead & run it.

As far as the current Framework, I am trying to Post
a screen cap but got it too big - do you need all of
them or the most recent ?

Again, thanks



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"JS" <@> wrote in message
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If you use a Dial-up connection it could take that
long or more.
High speed internet service and the download time
will not
be all that bad.

After the download completes the installation does
take a while
so you should not use the PC for anything else until
the install
completes. Note: When you see the message that the
installation
has completed and you are asked to "Reboot/Restart"
your PC
wait until you see the hard disk activity stop and
stays idle
for at least 1 minute, then you can reboot.

Do you need this update: There is a lot of
discussion on
this but if you check the current versions of .NET
installed
on your PC (Control Panel, Add/Remove programs) then
based on what versions on .NET you have installed I
may
be able to save you some time and disk space.

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"Dallas" <Jagged Edge@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Not knowing I ask; how important is this & did I
read it correctly, it takes 12 hours ?

thanks ia

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