Re: Life After XP Pro



aRKay wrote:
I may be wrong but I understand Microsoft plans to drop support'
for XP Pro soon. I just used the Software Updater to update my
wife's Dell D-600 to SP 3 and it seems to be working good.

I am worried about how to rebuild my system if Microsoft stops
supporting XP and wonder if I should pay for the SP 3 CD to be
safe that I and do a reinstall if needed?

Shenan Stanley said:
Microsoft will be releasing updates for Windows XP SP3 at least
until 2014. When they stop support - there will likely be a way to
get around activation released as well. Your CD is fine. You
could integrate SP3 if you feel like it. Or keep SP3 around on its
own installation CD. Whatever makes you happy. ;-)

In other words - if you actually find a way (such as never
advancing any of your hardware/software or getting lucky enough to
still have drivers for the newer hardware for XP and software that
remains updated/written for Windows XP) to run Windows XP through
2014 (many people will - I have no doubt - as there are still
people running Windows 98 ten years after its release date...) -
more power to you.

inkleput@xxxxxxx wrote:
What about those who are afraid of SP3?


They will be unable to receive updates after a certain point because those
updates will require you have SP3 installed. Just like some are unable to
get updates now because some updates require SP2 is installed. Just like
some were unable to get updates prior to that because some updates require
that SP1/SP1a was installed.

Fear of SP3 is mostly fear of the unknown exasperated by people passing down
horror stories of their own persoanl and limited (usually) experience -
and/or reading about problems in the newsgroups (where people only usually
come to report problems...)

I'm not saying people should close their eyes and jump in head first either.
A little preparation goes a long way. Do people *have* to prepare? Nope.
Would most be wise and better off if they did? Yes. Should most of the
things they might do to 'prepare' be things they should already do? Yep.

Here's my usual spiel.

A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*...
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb-4488-8c50-fe22559d164e&DisplayLang=en

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals
and Developers
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e4057aa8c631/relnotes.htm

Key things to note:

Internet Explorer:
"If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
"If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."

It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
that...

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
installation
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...

From PA Bear [MS MVP]:
Workarounds:

http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx
[NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
[WinXP SP3]."

1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
2. After booting into Safe Mode:
Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
sc config intelppm start= disabled
--> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.

Other references include:
.. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
..
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx
.. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
..
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9084418
.. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to Windows
XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a non-Intel-processor-based computer
(Revised 06 May-08)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372

Some people have gotten an "Access Denied" message when trying to install
SP3... Method 3 of this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377


Beyond that - some simple maintenance might be needed - like installing the
latest hardware drivers from your hardware vendors...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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