Re: Bad Update?

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:49:32 -0400, Ken <mystery@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ken wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:21:27 -0400, Ken <mystery@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IanKR wrote:
I always let XP SP3 automatically install updates. Today, for the
1st time, I have trouble. When KB951748 is installed I not longer
can get internet access. If I uninstall the fix everything works OK.

1) - What could be causing this problem?
2) - XP automatically tries to reinstall the fix. How can I stop this?
I know I can choose to be asked before a fix is installed but I
would prefer not to be bothered over and over again with this
particular fix.
It's a conflict between ZoneAlarm and that MS update.

I followed this advice on ZA's User Forum:
http://forum.zonelabs.org:80/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52727

and it still didn't solve the problem. The only thing that worked
for me is to:
1. Uninstall KB951748; or
2. Retain KB951748, disable ZA's Firewall and enable Window's
Firewall; or (if you want to
retain ZA's 2-way firewall)
3. Retain KB951748, change the slider in ZA's Firewall | Main |
Internet Zone Security to
Med. (from High).

I opted for 1. above, until ZA(/MS?) produce a workaround.

Keep an eye on this thread in ZA's forum:
http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&message.id=52860


Ian
Reducing ZA sensitivity to Medium did the trick.


That works, but in my view reducing your security to make ZA work is a
very dangerous thing to do.


I've been a ZA user for a long time because I had heard bad things
about window's Firewall back 3+ years ago. what's your opinion of
the win firewall today?


I used to recommend ZA over the Windows firewall because it was
two-way, and the Windows firewall only monitored incoming traffic.
I've become convinced, however, that outbound protection is
meaningless. Once one of the nasties gets into your computer, it can
essentially do whatever it wants, including circumventing the
firewall. So the extra protection that a firewall that monitors
outbound traffic provides is more apparent than real.

I strongly recommend that you abandon your dangerous workaround (not a
real fix) and replace ZA with the Windows firewall.

Yes, I now recall it was that 2-way protection that I thought was
important. I didn't key-loggers to send my stuff into the nether world.

Now that ZA has a workaround (fix?) I'm back on the ZA
bandwagon. While I understand your comment about outbound
protection - as my Mother used to say... "it can't hurt!".
Am I losing anything by using ZA? What's the Windows
Firewall got that ZA doesn't?


I don't think there's any terrible disadvantage to using ZA instead of
the Windows firewall. There might be a slight impact on performance,
but that's about it. Either choice is acceptable, as far as I'm
concerned, but just don't think that ZA provides any real improvement
in security.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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