Re: IP address question
- From: "Olórin" <incanus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:16:06 +0100
"Twayne" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:07:51 -0400, inkleputDEL@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
I gather that it never occurred to you why they publish that
"Networking for Dummies" book? Surely you know the one:
Home Networking for Dummies, by Kathy Ivens. Published by John
Wiley & Sons Inc.
I do not deny being a dummy about networking. I have read all kinds
of things in all kinds of places, over and over again. It's
interesting that almost anyone who gets networking invariably
assumes that one who doesn't understand it is a total lazy ass who
never attempts so much as to lift a finger. I've seen that so many
times in so many places it's nausiating.
The basic information is out there. If you didn't grasp it from the
basic information available, I don't know what to think. Despite the
claims of publishers of OSes and networking hardware, networking
isn't easy. Deity knows I see all kinds of troubles people get into
because they thought the manufacturers claims of "ease of use" were
factual. All the Wizards on all of the D-Link, Linksys, and Netgear
install disks are often no help when a newbie gets into trouble.
But, if you had truly "read all kinds of things in all kinds of
places", you would not have made this basic error:
"An IP address on the internet is a destination to look for."
Most people don't look for a destination, they already know it, in
the form of a "Fully Qualified Domain Name" (Google it, and learn
something new). If they don't know a destination, they search
(Google) using key words, not IP addresses. The finding of IP
addresses is a, largely, transparent ("behind the scenes") operation
of the ISP DNS servers. End users, even experienced ones, generally
don't worry about IP addresses in the normal course of surfing the
Internet.
Technically, (and, having "read all kinds of things in all kinds of
places", you should have known this) an IP address is a unique device
address on an IP network. Every device on an IP network must have a
unique IP address. Including the one from which requests are made to
other machines, using either FQDNs, or IP addresses (if known).
Surely you can find something clever and derogatory to say about the
fact that I literally can't remember 5% of what I read any more.
I'll not explain why, because that invites a whole new level of
sneer about something that can't possibly be grasped by those who
haven't been there.
The "* for Dummies" series of books is a time honored series of
primers, written with self-deprecatory humor, which taught my parents
much about computers. My mother recently shipped off her "MS DOS for
Dummies" and "Windows for Dummies" books to the Goodwill. Maybe some
other, less sensitive, newbie will find them useful. The authors of
the books start out from the premise that they, themselves, are among
the "Dumbest Dummies" to lay hands on whatever the topic of their
book is about.
Wow, must be a full moon tonight! You're quite the idiot.
Bam, three posts in a row from you helping the OP not one jot, doing nothing
but adding gratuitous insults to responders - "closed mind spews its
tripe", "balderdash spewed out... get a life" & "quite the idiot". What's
your problem, for crying out loud??
That was rhetorical.
*plonk*
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