Re: Can't delete temp files

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Look forward to hearing from you in a week or two.
Rgds
Antioch


"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I'll try that and post back in a week.
Also, someone on an antivirus froup isolated the files for me. He said
they are definately associated with my CA Antivirus program. He has the
program also and verified.
So at least we know they are being created by Computer Associates
Antivirus, which is good to know. Now I can find out from CA what the
story is.
Dudley


"Antioch" <myotherside@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Good morning Dudley
Oh that is a relief - I think I must have confused me more than you.
As I read your reply below - yes they are the two main ones.
The windows one, which you say is clear, I think only seems to get
entries when something new has been done - but do not quote me - in any
case I have yet to see anyone complain about that getting bloated.
Its that other one - %temp% - thats the 'funny one'.
OK - monitor that folder - dont Disk Cleanup and give it more than a week
to see what is happening. The more you switch off and on your system,
if it is misbehaving then further entries will be made each time. The 7
day rule will also be tested.
Lets see if you get a bundle, then try a Disk Cleanup to see if it
touches any.
If you have a printscreen - I have taken a shot after each start-up, just
for my records and monitor anything different.
Which ever way, I would like to hear from you with an updated thread - I
can then add your experiences to mine and others.
If all what should happen does not, then its a hand job re deleting at
regular intervals.
Good night to you
Rgds
Antioch

"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Just in case you get back here in the morning; here's the exact deal on
the temp folders.
The temp folder with the ~DF files in it is the one at C/documents and
settings/dudley henriques/local settings/temp.
The other one I believe you are mentioning is at C/windows/temp. That
one is clean.
I believe the one Disk Cleanup (yes, that was what I meant :-) cleans is
the first one in doc/settings.
Anyway, I guess the only way to clean the temp folder without additional
software is to use Disk Cleanup and catch the ~DF files every week as I
think that folder by default empties using Disk Cleanup if the files are
a week old.
I'll check that auto delete and see what develops.
Dudley

"antioch" <antioch@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Reply intertwined etc

"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Antioch;
Hope all's well with you and yours.

Yes thank you - and with you too :-)

I checked the Windows/ temp folder. I think that's the one you are
referring to?? Nothing unusual there.

I am still not certain we are in the same 'ball park' as you would put
it your side of the small pond.
I hope you can confirm the below.
I assumed that what you refer to above is the one to which you were
referring in your original post - or have I got that wrong? -
i.e. My Comp/C:/Windows/Temp - this holds the files similar to those
you used as an example in you original post.
Mine has WGA when it kicks in on startup plus ZA files - so you will
prob. have your Firewall putting files in that temp. They should auto
delete themselves in a 7 day period - watch the dates to make sure.
Mine do act properly in this Temp.

I'm pretty sure these files in the local settings/temp folder

Do you now mean those via the Start/Run/ type in %temp% that I
suggested you try - these take you to one of the temp folders also
accessed from C:\Docs & Settings/Dudley?/
Application data/Local Settings/Temp. This folder should show the same
entries/contents as doing the Start/Run method.
THIS IS the temp that I mentioned which can contain thousands of
folders and files and are not cleared by Disk Cleanup OR when you shut
down.
There is another temp in Default User - ignore - it should be empty.
This is NOT the same as the C:Windows/Temp.

are being created by the AV program each time I boot or reboot. I have
discovered that even on the same day, I can delete the ones time
stamped on any file except the latest set of them created on the last
reboot or boot. Whatever program is creating them allows this, but
apparently doesn't clean up the temp folder when shutting down. This
can be a real PIA, as I now have to remember to deal with the temp
folder.

I am a bit lost re the above para until I get some confirmation that we
are both talking about the same 2 Temps.

Normally when shutting down for the day, I usually go into IE options
and delete the TIF and off line content, then compress the OE files
manually. This bypasses the Temp folder.

TIF and temp are different in this issue - I also clear all TIF and
cookies every night. Its good house-keeping. As far as I am aware,
that operation has nothing to do with these Temps.

I guess I should just use My Computer and clean up the C drive
selecting there.

Do you mean Disk Cleanup.

That catches the Temp folder I believe, and doing that should delete
all but the last set of those files created.
You concur??

Yes it should, but as I have said before, for some it does not. Why it
does not has yet to be found. Some have a bug of sorts in their
systems from when their computers were first built. I have now had
this problem on two XP systems in a row in a 2 year period.
Here is a link to Ramesh's site - what should happen is explained.

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/cleantemp.htm

I have emailed him and we have discussed. I am still looking into his
response. I hope he is not reading this, but in a way I dispute to a
degree what his article says.

Also, if you pop into the windowsxp.general, look for my thread "%temp%
mystery" dated 8 Sept 2006.
I just hope I have not confused you by all this.
But these are the two main temps that we are talking about. There are
a few more but of no significance in this discussion.
Sorry - must get to bed - am doing a bit of consulting work tomorrow -
if I get time I will pop into Basics.
Take care
Rgds
Antioch


Dudley
"antioch" <antioch@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello Dudley
That is the C:\Windows\Temp sorted.
What do you get when you go in the other temp? - the one that Disk
Cleanup is supposed to clear but for lots of users for some reason
does not.
Do - Start/Run/type in box %temp% and see what you have there.
If all is OK probably 1 - could be two. Or a few hundred or a
thousand.
Where a manual fix sorts out this temp business, I would not bother
putting yet another bit of software on my system - its not needed is
it?
Rgds
Antioch


"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Cooter. I don't have Zone Alarm on the computer, but I do
have just downloaded and installed the newest version of my
AntiVirus program (CA AntiVirus from Computer Associates). These
files just might be part of their new engine. I've written them a
note asking about this. Perhaps this is the answer.
I have noticed that I show details, I can select and delete all but
those created (today), which would indicate since the AV seems to be
the only program running in the background, that they are
associated.
If this thinking jives with you, let me know will you please?
Thanks
Dudley

"Cooter" <cooter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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These are either ZoneAlarm or System Mechanic files, can't remember
which. One is written each time you boot the computer. However, I
can always delete all but the most recent one, but the catch is,
the most recent one is usually on top of the listing, so
highlighting the entire list and hitting Delete will fail because
the first one it encounters is locked. Try highlighting all but the
most recent one. Anyhow, they appear to be harmless.


















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