Re: OE-Quote Fix

Hi Pete,

I did not mean to insult your computer skills and if I did, I apologize.

I had some problems with SP2 and it did some things that I didn't like. So
I dumped it.

I have never even tried any other newsreader, Thunderbird included. I know
absolutely nothing about Thunderbird. Back when I had Windows 98 and was
using AOL (I know ;-( ) I tried getting rid of OE. I knew nothing about
newsgroups, AOL handled my E-mail and I couldn't understand why OE was even
on my machine. I'm sure that there are better newsreaders than OE, but OE
is OK with me. About the only thing that I don't like about OE is the way
it handles message composition and formatting.

I mean, you type a paragraph, forget a word or two, go back and type in the
word and
end up with this.

I mean
paragraphs that have broken lines that
end up
looking like
this.

It makes it look like you don't even know what the Enter key is for or how
to use it.

Or even using spell check before sending, spell check corrects a word and
makes
it longer and you get screwed up paragraphs like this one.

If I do not like something I do not keep quiet about it. I bad mouth McAfee
every chance I get. 8-)

A long time ago I tried NetScape, that was while I was using AOL and I don't
even remember much about it.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:11khck8h5nqdv95@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Pete <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>> Pete,
>>
>> Ctrl + F3 shows the Message Source.
>>
>> Click this message and hit Ctrl + F3 then scroll down to where it says
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506
>
> This is not the latest, version, I guess because you uninstalled sp2 (hows
> that for a memory). You never did tell me why you uninstalled sp2. Were
> you having trouble with it...Pete
>
>>
>> You can get the same thing by right clicking a message, selecting
>> Properties and clicking the Details tab. To get to the Message
>> Source, click the button.
>>
>> X-Newsreader shows what the poster is using as a newsreader.
>>
>> Note that mine is not Thunderbird.
>
> God Wes, you totally misunderstood me (I hate it when that happens - lol
> ). I'm very capable at reading message headers and know how to use a
> puter <g>. I was trying to make a joke about Tbird because of all the
> trouble with the fonts/html/plain text (way too complicated like I said)
> - since it related strongly to the OE quote fix we have been talking
> about, and I went through hell in the mozilla newsgroup for TB recently,
> like I said.
>
> I didn't even bother checking your header because I figured you would be
> using OE, being a MS-MVP, plus I've talked with you before (you are a real
> good person). However, I think most people these days have tried TBird
> and all the hoopla is that it is way better than OE (at least for the
> security crap - which I don't worry about). And everybody bitches that
> OE doesn't strip sigs (well it does now :-)). I'm sure Bill will be
> fixing that one of these days, as well as adding tabbed browsing to IE -
> that may get into patent stuff. However IMO, Tbird is not user friendly
> at all, like I said.
>
> As a professional, I figured you wouldn't say anything bad about another
> news reader, even though its freeware (source code stuff). I figured you
> might come back and actually say you liked it or something -ie you can be
> an MVP, and use two, or even three different newsreaders :-) See I
> remembered not to put a period after the smiley (that will bother my
> writing style).
>
> Anyway, what do you think about TB, or do you have to keep silent. Now
> firefox is another story, and I just switched to it and love it. The
> tabbed browsing tends to make IE archaic, and the bookmarks are more
> manageable than IE's favorites, and it loads web pages faster on my snail
> dial up. I have used IE/OE for the last 10 years and now I will be using
> firefox, but stay with OE.
>
> Are you going to agree with me that TBird is not user friendly, or do you
> like it. I know an MVP in another ng who uses it all the time along with
> firefox and he's not afraid to talk about it. I guess he uses both IE/OE
> and firefox/TB (not sure why he goes back and forth - I know certain sites
> require IE but firefox has an extension to get around that). Let me know
> what you think of TB. I'm sure you've tried it...Pete
>
>>
>>
>> In news:11kgqp6i1lkre73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>> Pete <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
>>> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>>>> OE-QuoteFix - stand-alone opens OEQuoteFix.exe. When first clicked
>>>> you'll see this message...
>>>> ---------------------------
>>>> OE-QuoteFix
>>>> ---------------------------
>>>> Outlook Express 5/6 is not running.
>>>> Do you want to disable dependency
>>>> to start OE-QuoteFix anyway?
>>>> ---------------------------
>>>> Yes No
>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>
>>>> If you click Yes, OE-QuoteFix opens w/o OE. Then the next time you
>>>> click on OE-QuoteFix - stand-alone, it opens OE-QuoteFix without any
>>>> popups and w/o OE. Hence, stand-alone. I don't really know what
>>>> good running OE-QuoteFix w/o OE is. Although there are some things
>>>> you can do, like adjust settings.
>>>
>>> Wes...I was afraid to click yes so I clicked no :-) <g> and after
>>> just reading what you wrote I guess it wouldn't have mattered LOL
>>>
>>>>
>>>> When you answer yes to the pop-up, OE-QuoteFix does not close when
>>>> you close OE. You have to go into Advanced Options in OE-QuoteFix
>>>> and select Depend on OE to get it to close when OE closes.
>>>>
>>>> Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix opens OELaunch.exe which opens
>>>> OEQuoteFix.exe & Outlook Express (msimn.exe).
>>>>
>>>> These are just options to confuse the user. :-)
>>>>
>>>> If OE-QuoteFix & OE open and close at the same time, leave it that
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>> Is that any less clear? LOL
>>>
>>> Yeh...I guuuuueeeessss. LOL ....I'm like you, I don't see what the
>>> hell the real purpose of the stand alone is. Any idea about the
>>> dark blue versus the light blue I talked about. It's NBD I guess.
>>> don't worry about it. Thanks for your help. Will talk to you
>>> later...Pete
>>>
>>> PS - It can't be any worse than thunderbird. Tbird is the most
>>> unuser friendly (ie NOT friendly) application I have ever seen. The
>>> font window and the inter-relationships between the fonts and the
>>> html and the plain text is incredibly complicated. No indexed help
>>> like OE has. I spent days on end in the mozilla group, with a lot
>>> of heartburn. I will stay with my OE. You probably like TB, so
>>> excuse me, but it is definitely not user friendly to newby's that
>>> have never used it before. Take care :-) ...Pete.
>>
>> <snip>

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