Re: xp upgrade from 98se
From: Michael Stevens (mstevens_at_bogusmvps.org)
Date: 02/27/05
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:27:14 -0800
In news:eJl5LRNHFHA.2924@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
philo <philo@privacy.net> respectfully replied ;-)
> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23OT2tDNHFHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> In news:%23q3odrMHFHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
>> philo <philo@privacy.net> respectfully replied ;-)
>>> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message news:e%>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> <portions trimmed>
>>>
>> I have found any system that gave problems when I upgraded, were the
>> same on the clean install. But that is because of the way I approach
>> an upgrade is the same as a clean install.
>>
>>>> Bottom line is a poorly prepped clean install will give about the
>>>> same results as a poorly prepped upgrade and the same goes for a
>>>> well prepped upgrade and clean install. The XP upgrade is vastly
>>>> improved from previous Windows upgrades and should not be treated
>>>> the same as previous upgrades.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The following are your words, not mine:
>>>
>>>
>>>> When done correctly, it is very close to a clean install in both
>>>> stability and final installed footprint
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> with a major savings in time spent in
>>>> configuration and productivity.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my experience, "very close" is not good enough.
>>> Maybe I am too much of a perfectionist...but even if it takes a
>>> little bit longer to
>>> backup your data and perform a clean install...it's time well
>>> spent... especially considering it may only take an extra hour or
>>> two... compared to the many years one will probably be using the OS!
>>>
>>
>> In my experience very close is just a concession that a clean
>> install must logically be better, but I have not actually noticed a
>> difference in stability. The only real noticeable difference is in
>> the footprint.
>> If it only takes you an extra hour or two to do a clean install,
>> then my hat is off to you and please tell us your secret.
>>
>
>>> One more point...
>>> one must examine how much time is spent in "prepping" a marginal
>>> win98 installation
>>
>> I would not upgrade a marginal 98 system at this time.
>>
>>
>>> in order to ready it for an upgrade... vs the time spent just
>>> backing up the data
>>
>> What would make a difference in time? I would prep for a clean
>> install whether upgrading or clean installing
>>
>>> and reinstalling. More than likely it's actually quicker to just to
>>> a clean install.
>>
>> No way is it quicker.
>>
>
> When upgrading a Win98 system to XP...
> it's really not that likely that the Win98 system is 100% good...
> even if there are no conflicts...and assuming XP properly replaces
> all the drivers...
> there still could be some minor registry errors that though they were
> not casing any real problems...
> would be multplied after an ungrade.
>
> So, if one were to fully examine the win98 system and correct all
> errors before upgrading...
> it could take a bit of time.
> A fresh install of XP, to me just has not seemed too terribly time
> consuming...
> I have no "secret" method other than just being sure to export the OE
> and IE data first.
>
> Now that said...even assuming one had a 100% funtional win98 system
> which would lend itself to a 100% functional XP upgrade...
> My question is...why would you want to upgrade a system that is
> perfectly good in the
> first place?
>
> I never recommend to anyone that they upgrade a perfectly good win98
> system to XP...
> OTOH: if someone is having incurable win98 stability problems... I
> generally do recommend
> a move to the more stable Win2k or XP...but of course would never do
> anything but a clean
> install in those cases...
>
> Now that I've put my case down in writing it's obvious why I stand at
> odds with some of the people here...It's simply because the main
> reason I upgrade people's machines to XP is simply becasue of their
> win98 problems...so of course do a clean install.
>
> The win98 systems, that are working fine...i generally don't upgrade.
>
> So now all I am left to ask is why you guys are upgrading perfectly
> good 100% working
> win98 systems?
Unfortunately you do not have a realistic grasp on how the XP upgrade works.
There is nothing left of 98 after the upgrade except for the registry
settings you allowed it to migrate.
We stand in agreement upgrading a 98 system, I very rarely suggest anyone
upgrade a 98 system to XP. With the prices of entry level XP systems so very
close to the cost of upgrading a 98 system, I find it very foolish to
upgrade. Any 98 system you upgrade to XP would be obsolete and the cheapest
entry level Dell system would run circles around the 98 system upgraded to
XP.
I suggest lean out the 98 system, network it with a new XP system and get a
lot more bang for the buck.
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