Re: xp upgrade from 98se
From: Michael Stevens (mstevens_at_bogusmvps.org)
Date: 02/27/05
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 04:27:01 -0800
In news:O%23idkzLHFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
philo <philo@privacy.net> respectfully replied ;-)
> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OB6rNpIHFHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> In news:u8JJNpFHFHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
>> philo <philo@privacy.net> respectfully replied ;-)
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:exVaigFHFHA.3624@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hundreds and no crashes. I simply prepared well first and did not
>>>> attempt upgrades to any systems that were not certified by the
>>>> manufacturer's for XP. I also ran the Upgrade Advisor and resolved
>>>> issues before attempting to proceed. All were straightforward
>>>> retail cd upgrades. I got the same results from upgrading Win 2000
>>>> Pro systems to XP Pro.
>>>>
>>> OK
>>> fair enough!
>>>
>>> i'd not expect any problems with win2k > XP
>>>
>>>
>>> did any of those win98 > XP upgrades *ever* have a crash during
>>> let's say a one year period of time? not an application
>>> failure...but a full system failure?
>>> just curious.
>>> thank you
>>
>> My experience is much the same as Colin's and for the life of me I
>> don't understand how a crash during any period of time would relate
>> any argument that a clean install would be better than an upgrade.
>> Grasping for straws? The XP upgrade when properly prepped is very
>> close to a clean install, and since the Windows folder is completely
>> removed and replaced with a new CLEAN Windows folder, old drivers
>> are NOT migrated. The same drivers that a clean install would use
>> are also used for the upgrade [hint! they are on the XP CD]. When
>> you remove incompatible hardware and software before the upgrade,
>> the upgrade is going to be a success.
>
>
>
> Actually i was not grasping at straws...
> because the systems i have performed clean installs on have been
> running flawlessly for
> several years now. Although i have had a few system crashes due to
> hardware failure
> (ie: cpu fan quit etc) the system itself has never crashed. That's
> several machines
> over a two year period of time.
>
> Even though, in theory XP may have been designed to upgrade win98...
> in practice (even if compatability is checked first) I've found that
> that just is not the case.
>
> One side point I'd like to make is that i was quite surprised at how
> well XP really works...
> even with legacy devices. I've install XP many times on machines that
> still had some fairly old
> ISA devices and have never had a problem. So hardware compatability
> is (at least in my experience) , virtually a non-issue.
>
>
> Now, getting back to my original question, which no one has answered
> yet. In all the systems
> which were upgraded from win98 to XP...Did any of them ever crash
> within (let's say), a one year
> period? Now if you'd say , sure so it crashed once or twice in that
> year, so what...that's
> normal. All I can say is..."How do you know that a clean install
> would not have worked better?"
>
Yes, and so did a couple of clean installs, what exactly does this prove? I
also have a couple of dual boot systems that are a mixture of clean and
upgrade and neither have crashed, and I have to check to see which is the
clean or upgrade OS I am booted into. You really don't understand how the XP
upgrade works from what have you posted
95/98/Me drivers are not migrated to XP, any hardware that doesn't have XP
drivers by now, should be junked or if the hardware is very important the
system should not be upgraded at all.
Bottom line is a poorly prepped clean install will give about the same
results as a poorly prepped upgrade and the same goes for a well prepped
upgrade and clean install. The XP upgrade is vastly improved from previous
Windows upgrades and should not be treated the same as previous upgrades.
When done correctly, it is very close to a clean install in both stability
and final installed footprint with a major savings in time spent in
configuration and productivity.
-- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com http://www.michaelstevenstech.com For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm > Finally...If one can truely say that they've performed hundreds of > upgrades and none of them have ever crashed, ever...then maybe I'll > quit harping so much on the clean > install method! > However , of course not all older software will work under XP...but > for the most part... > that which does not function is pretty darn old (such as dos games for > example)
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