Re: Perspicacia

From: David Candy (.)
Date: 02/08/05


Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:33:44 +1100

I don't know why I put two seperate topics in the same paragraph.

It's word shapes. The people that do what Rick tried also get humps and bumps right along the whole length of the word. But rick, of course, get 80% of the way there with the 1st/nth means. If done well it takes a few words to notice it's gibberish. Although I read bizzare things into most public signs. And have to reread closely because as I get older word shapes are ALL I see.

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"johnf" <john_f@bigpond.net.a> wrote in message news:eRt9JuYDFHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, David, but I must agree with you on both posts.
> As for Rick S's "comment", everyone knew (so I thought) that any word 
> starting and ending with the original letter is readable - irrespective as 
> to how you jumble the contents, so I can't see the point of that post - am I 
> missing something?
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> johnf
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>> It's a little bit more than that. It's word shapes. Most illiterate
>> people can read. But the biggest problem is they sub vocalise what they
>> are reading slowing their reading speed down to the spoken word. This
>> means that things fall out of short term memory before being
>> transferred to long term memory.
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>> "Rick S." <nowhere@dot.com> wrote in message
>> news:e2ftDUYDFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>I cdnuolt  blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdenieg.
>>> The phaonemneal  pweor of the hmuan mnid Aodccrnig to a rscheearch at
>>> Cmabrigde Uinervtisy,  it dnsoe't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in
>>> a wrod are, the olny  iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat
>>> ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The  rset can be a taotl mses and you
>>> can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs  is bcuseae the hmuan mnid
>>> deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod  as a wlohe.
>>> Azmanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuoht slpeling was !  ipmorantt
>>> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
>>> news:ud9PV%23WDFHA.520@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> There are 40,000,000 backpackers staying near me. Most are poms.
>>>
>>> 1. The english are ugly, americians are fat. German girls and Canadian
>>> girls are 50/50. That is they send us some dog ugly ones and some good
>>> looking ones.
>>>
>>> But the pommie accent is grating to the ears.
>>>
>>> French girls are music to the ears.
>>>
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>>> "jeffrey" <jeffrey@nospam.okinawa.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u3Y%23OqODFHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting insights you provided with your information.  I used to
>>>> have a hard copy dictionary around, but it was too big to keep
>>>> lugging around, especially when moving to another country.  I now use
>>>> web based dictionaries
>>>> and noticed how each reacts to word searches.  I don`t know if the
>>>> online site I`m using is British English or American English.  I know
>>>> us Americans
>>>> can easily slaughter a written language, but I think the Brits in
>>>> London are
>>>> slaughtering the spoken language.
>>>>
>>>> I did some transcribing work for a little while, had to transcribe
>>>> some video images of interviews in London, and I being a native
>>>> English speaker (used to different accents of English as well,
>>>> British, Scottish, Indian, European, etc) couldn`t beleive what was
>>>> being said out of the peoples mouths.  I know we Americans sometimes
>>>> have some strong accents when speaking, but I couldn`t beleive what
>>>> was being spoken from these Brits was
>>>> English.  Anyway, sorry to waste more of your time, just wanted to
>>>> thank you
>>>> for the insight.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
>>>> news:OhHRhzoCFHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> PS That MS UK dictionary which is what Australians get.
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>>>> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23nHw6voCFHA.2960@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> This is a MS newsgroup. Who gives a F what webster, oxford, or
>>>> Macquarrie thinks.
>>>>
>>>> This is what MS says
>>>>
>>>> forum
>>>>
>>>> forum fo¢rem or fö¢,
>>>> noun originally a market-place, especially that in Rome where public
>>>> business was transacted and justice dispensed; the courts of law as
>>>> opposed
>>>> to Parliament (rare); a meeting to discuss topics of public concern; a
>>>> publication, regular meeting, etc serving as a medium for debate:
>>>> fo'rums or fo'ra plural.
>>>> [Latin forum, related to foras out of doors]
>>>>
>>>> (c) Larousse plc.  All rights reserved
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MS uses The Chambers Dictionary is the product of a long line of
>>>> dictionary-making. With the publication of each succeeding edition,
>>>> the dictionary’s editors have kept abreast of the contemporary
>>>> changes in the language and the requirements of its users. For the
>>>> current edition, careful
>>>> attention has been taken to ensure that the language and requirements
>>>> of the
>>>> 1990s are well served.
>>>>
>>>> The Hertigage Illustrated Dictionary of the English Language:
>>>> International
>>>> Edition (Americian Hertigage Publishing Company:1975) says pretty
>>>> much the same as MS. They note where usuage is not common to ALL
>>>> english and americian speaking countries. They make no mention of any
>>>> country specific notes. So both are correct in all countries. EG for
>>>> Petrol that say Chiefly
>>>> British - means gasoline (whatever that is - I suppose it must be
>>>> petrol - dunno the dictionary doesn't say gasoline is petrol, it says
>>>> it's GAS + OL +
>>>> INE)
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>>>> "Yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:BdCMd.695$RF4.624@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> Will,  do you actually HAVE a Webster's, or is your knowledge, like
>>>>> mine, general knowledge? (I know a bit about Webster 'cos I was
>>>>> reading about his
>>>>> work a while ago. I enjoy words, and tracing their origins). If so,
>>>>> please
>>>>> look up "Forum" - I'd like to know HIS spelling/definition of the
>>>>> plural (i.e whether he has both forms) - it's bugging me!
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know I'm a Brit, but worked for US multinationals for best
>>>>> part of 35
>>>>> years. It plays havoc, occasionally, with my spelling. It's only in
>>>>> very recent times that a few US and English spellings have become
>>>>> acceptably interchangeable in written English (but missing "u"'
>>>>> words are still a no-no - "benefitted", in particular, springs to
>>>>> mind.)
>>>>> Just noticed is 03.45 - time for bed! .
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Len
>>>>>
>>>>> "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OrHRdemCFHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Curious - as you say.  As a norm Webster seems to have omitted a few
>>>>>> letters along the way - including a lot of 'u's!!
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will Denny
>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>> Please reply to the News Groups
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b3AMd.1057$SC2.113@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>>>>>>> Before you leap on it, there's another typo in my post 4 Feb
>>>>>>> (thread "re
>>>>>>> CalcPlus") - missed the "r" in "comfortable". Need to service my
>>>>>>> keyboard, keys getting sticky, also late at night - again..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plus - you might note that, in the post I was replying to, BAR
>>>>>>> used the word "benefited".
>>>>>>> That's the English spelling.  American spelling is "benefitted".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aren't dictionaries wonderful sources of information? (well,
>>>>>>> English ones, anyway). Unlikely that Webster would give a
>>>>>>> non-American alternative, given his documented/published objective
>>>>>>> in compiling it was
>>>>>>> to "simplify" English for an exclusively American readership##.
>>>>>>> Curiously, many of his "simplifications" removed (what he deemed
>>>>>>> to be) superfluous letters - in "benefitted" he added one!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ##( I don't possess a Webster's, this is conjecture on my part).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apols for typo. Len. 
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