Re: SFC/scannow - help please?

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From: Len Dolby (lsdolby_at_ignore.ntlwor.com)
Date: 01/18/05 

Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:46:19 GMT

Colin, John - Interesting, this conflict of opinion between MVP's!
I'm currently trying to borrow XP disk (donor is a distance away) will keep
you posted on success - may be a while.

John's reservation seems to be primarily that of legality. My view is that I
have a paid-for legal operating system.All I'm doing is following advice
(and an already-established practice) to create what is essentially a
recovery disk for my system.
Since "slipstreaming" involves copying files from (copyright) system disk,
(and updates are also copyright) -what's the legal difference between
copying files from one disk and copying same files from another, to support
a legally purchased/installed operating system ? I'm not intending to run 2
pc's from the slipstream disk - that would be illegal (and I don't have 2
pc's anyway).

If copying from a system disk is illegal, then (logically) the entire
concept of slipstreaming is also illegal? If that is the case, will
Microsoft be taking action against MVP's who promote it ?
A new acronym - MDvP (Most DeValued Person) as punishment, perhaps ...
(British humour).

Suspect this could be an ENORMOUS can of worms!!! Will follow the dialogue
(if any) with interest.

Sincerely, Len.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:Ont$j2W$EHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Yes. (The only hitch might be an OEM customized system file somewhere in
> the mix, which is highly unlikely.) System File Checker has no need to
> ask for the product key so I would use the appropriate Home or Pro cd from
> another user and create the slipstreamed cd.
>
> Gratuitous comment: This is one reason I have stopped buying systems with
> Windows preinstalled. I much prefer to have a plain old Windows cd at
> hand. I have used Microsoft PSS (phone help) enough times that the extra
> expense has been worth it to me.
>
> Having said that, your solution should work fine. Please post back with
> the result.
>
> --
> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
> "Len Dolby" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
> news:K08Hd.1168$SR5.672@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> John, many thanks (to Rick and Thorsten, too). Well spotted - for hdd
>> capacity read Gb where Mb appeared! Dyslexia rules, KO?
>>
>> I was visitor 5382 to your site - impressive !!
>>
>> One prob - I inadvertently misled you (ambiguity). I never had an
>> "original" XP OS disk. XP came pre-installed. Which means that the
>> answer to Q83 ("how to slipstream" isn't straightforward. My PC is
>> German - "Targa" - did have recovery disk, used once over 2 years ago,
>> now mislaid/disappeared (have all supplied disks EXCEPT the most
>> important - careless!). My Windows XP product key is on a label on back
>> of the PC, and though I've changed one or two things, the essential
>> hardware still holds true for verification table.
>>
>> Is it possible to use some-one else's XP disk, use those files to create
>> "slipstream" CD?
>> (It's possible that my friends also have XP pre-loaded, in which case,
>> another question - What files/folders are needed (assuming they exist in
>> the same name on "recovery" XP CD's ?
>>
>> Sincerely, Len.
>>
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> news:OiAabwM$EHA.1904@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Have you considered using a 'slipstreamed' copy of XP?
>>> You say you already have the XP CD (which is 3 years old) You also
>>> presumably either have SP2 downloaded to your pc or on a CD. All you
>>> need do is 'slipstream' SP2 onto XP which then creates a 'new' copy
>>> incorporating both XP and SP2. Copy the resulting file to CD and you
>>> have a copy of XP with all of the service pack 2 updates. It's a lot
>>> less trouble.
>>> Obviously you need slipstream software which can be downloaded free.
>>> Before deciding visit my website:
>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/john.freelanceit/index.htm
>>> Click on the Win XP Faq button and take a look at question 83 'how do i
>>> create a slipstream cd of windows xp and service pack 2'
>>> I always use this method when new service packs come out.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/john.freelanceit/index.htm
>>>
>>> "Len Dolby" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ZARGd.72$3I2.26@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> WinXP,HE,SP2 plus latest updates - C:\partition is 24.9 Mb with 8Mb
>>>> free
>>>> space. Virus, spy-adware free, defragged.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc (Learn how to use SFC/Scannow)
>>>>
>>>> Have read this (along with "Help - DWORD in XP, to get
>>>> definition/clarification of what a Dword is).
>>>> Also gone into Regedit to view my own system settings.
>>>>
>>>> PROBLEM The only relevant entries under Winlogon for SFC/Scannow in my
>>>> registry are -
>>>>
>>>> SFCDisable (REG_DWORD) 0x00000000 (0)
>>>> Sfcquota (REG_DWORD) 0xffffffff (4294967295) which, if bytes, is a
>>>> larger number than my HDD actually has. Example shown in article
>>>> indicates
>>>> this should read something like "(50MB)" - why is mine different?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PROBLEM - I want to "point" to the "i386" folder for drivers/dlls,
>>>> rather
>>>> than XP CD, since my source CD is over 3 years old. If my understanding
>>>> is
>>>> correct, "i386" directory on the HDD has latest drivers/dll's provided
>>>> by XP
>>>> Automatic updates, and is therefore a more appropriate target.. (I did
>>>> take
>>>> the precaution of moving the SP2 download to (2nd partition) Drive D on
>>>> the
>>>> HDD, to a folder called SP2.)
>>>>
>>>> However, "Search" for folder "i386" gives the following -
>>>> C:\Windows\Driver Cache - folder containing just 5 files (incl SP1.cab
>>>> and
>>>> SP2.cab) - 109 Mb
>>>> C:\Windows\ServicePackFiles - folder containing 2192 files, 440Mb
>>>> C:\Windows|System32\ReinstallBackups\00**/Driver files - 19 folders.
>>>> The "00**" is a non-contiguous list from 0001 to 0023 (19 of them)
>>>> AND -
>>>> TOTALLY CONFUSING - the file Folder dates are NOT in chronological
>>>> order, as
>>>> one might expect in a numeric sequence (random dates vary between 2003
>>>> and
>>>> 2005)
>>>>
>>>> Just to confuse me even more - the SP2 directory on D; has an i386
>>>> directory
>>>> with 2900+ entries PLUS subdirectories.
>>>>
>>>> I should perhaps mention that I have never deleted any "$ntuninstall$"
>>>> files - should I have done?
>>>>
>>>> QUESTION - would it be sensible to copy ALL the i386 files/drivers from
>>>> the
>>>> various directories into ONE directory - assume the System 32/i386
>>>> folder ?
>>>>
>>>> Object of the exercise - to stabilise my system. SFC/Scannow is
>>>> suggesting I
>>>> have problems, wants XP CD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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