Re: XP Firewall
From: coliboy (coliboy_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 01/11/05
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:09:08 -0800
a Bill,
As a final note, regarding the systray shield warning (or lack of); Check
how the Security centre notifies you. SC, Left side under Resources - "Change
the way Security Centre Alerts me" and put a check in Firewall. That ought to
bring back your systray notification.
Colin.
"William B. Lurie" wrote:
> Well, Colin, I disabled Norton Internet Worm Protection
> and got to a stable situation, even right after rebooting,
> where clicking two placed in Control Panel (Security
> Center and Windows Firewall) reported conflicting messages
> about whether Firewall was On or Off.
> Somehow, by telling it to turn Off at every opportunity,
> I got to where it shows Off in both places. Interestingly,
> in the past I've seen it warn me in the tray, with a
> balloon, that Firewall was Off, but it doesn't do that any
> more. Maybe my experiences will prompt one of the experts
> to investigate whether I've stumbled on a Windows bug.
>
> I may turn one or the other On again (Anti-Worm and
> XP Firewall) but I have other fish to fry.
> Thanks for the help. //WBL//
>
> William B. Lurie wrote:
> > coliboy wrote:
> > Hmmmmm....I'll try to disable NIW and see if anything
> > changes. Thanks, Colin.
> >
> >
> >> Bill,
> >> It seems, from a bit of googling, that Norton's Internet Worm
> >> Protection is acting as a Firewall of sorts. I found a forum on which
> >> the members were discussing "Windows Firewall v. Norton Internet Worm
> >> Protection - which is best?" So it looks like that may be your
> >> culprit! Seems it's part of NSW 2005 which I believe, from previous
> >> posts you may have. Bet if you disable it your problem will be gone!
> >>
> >> BTW, I googled on "Nortonâ„¢ Internet Worm Protection" if you're
> >> interested.
> >>
> >> Good Luck
> >>
> >> Colin.
> >>
> >> "William B. Lurie" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> coliboy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bill,
> >>>> you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Right there it says "ON". I have to believe that
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> is telling me that the Firewall is ON...the Windows Firewall,
> >>>>> since I have no other."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you checked out what you believe it's telling you by clicking
> >>>> on the double arrows? The only bit of information missing from your
> >>>> last post was whether you had done this or not.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Colin.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Colin, I went there again just now, after reading your suggestion.
> >>> The double arrows
> >>> top right open a small drop-down telling me something informative
> >>> about Norton Internet Worm protection. It still days, right there,
> >>> Firewall is ON, but when I scroll down to select Firewall, that opens
> >>> up to show me that the dot is in the Firewall OFF radio button. As
> >>> reported before.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "William B. Lurie" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> coliboy wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "William B. Lurie" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Marcus wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have a look here -
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://thepcyoubuy.com/XPFirewall.htm
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "William B. Lurie" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At first I heard there was a conflict between Norton
> >>>>>>>>> Anti-Virus and XP Firewall, so I didn't use Firewall
> >>>>>>>>> for a while. Now for a month I've had both on, and I
> >>>>>>>>> see no interference. But just now I tried to turn
> >>>>>>>>> Firewall Off and haven't found a way to do so.
> >>>>>>>>> Start>>Control Panel>>Security Center shows it to
> >>>>>>>>> me, but changing the "On" button to "Off" and exiting
> >>>>>>>>> doesn't change it. Even rebooting doesn't.
> >>>>>>>>> What am I doing wrong?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bill Lurie
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Marcus, that link and instructions, while well-intentioned,
> >>>>>>> only lead me to the Security Center by a different route.
> >>>>>>> The problem is that the radio buttons for setting Firewall
> >>>>>>> On or Off show OFF but up above in clear letters it says the
> >>>>>>> Firewall is ON. Reboot leaves this paradox in place. Right there
> >>>>>>> in the Security Center, it says the Firewall is On and also Off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> William B. Lurie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You say the radio buttons indicate the Windows Firewall is off,
> >>>>>> but Security centre indicates Firewall On. You haven't said
> >>>>>> *which* firewall is indicated as being on. My Windows firewall is
> >>>>>> set at Off but SC indicates Firewall On, it's not until I click
> >>>>>> the double arrow next to "On" that I see that it's Zone Alarm
> >>>>>> that's on. A simple explanation I know but we assume you've
> >>>>>> already checked that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Coliboy, the English language just isn't specific enough.
> >>>>> I go Start>>Control Panel>>Security Center.
> >>>>> There are 3 areas there, and let's talk about the top one,
> >>>>> labeled "Firewall". Right there it says "ON". I have to believe that
> >>>>> is telling me that the Firewall is ON...the Windows Firewall,
> >>>>> since I have no other.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scrolling down, I am invited to Manage Security Settings. There are
> >>>>> three choices, and I select Windows Firewall. A panel opens, and
> >>>>> there I see several shields of different colors at the left,
> >>>>> vertically.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The top one is Red, has an X in it, and is marked "Not Protected"
> >>>>> The next one is green, has a check in it, and to its right is a radio
> >>>>> button, a circle which is empty, and it is marked ON (recommended).
> >>>>> Below that there is a shield which is Red, has an X in it, and to its
> >>>>> right is a radio button, a circle with a dot in it, and to its right
> >>>>> it says "OFF (not recommended)".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is nothing in my bottom toolbar telling me anything about
> >>>>> Firewall.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So there is my confusion. The first screen is unequivocal, it says
> >>>>> Firewall ON.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Later screens say it is OFF. In the past, when I turned it OFF, the
> >>>>> first screen told me it was OFF and a little shield in my toolbar
> >>>>> also told me so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry to be so long-winded, but my shorter descriptions, while
> >>>>> accurate, elicited responses which did not indicate that I was
> >>>>> specific enough.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> William B. Lurie
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> William B. Lurie
>
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