Re: Can I get rid of InCD?
From: Ken Blake (kblake_at_this.is.an.invalid.domain)
Date: 12/20/04
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:14:39 -0700
In news:eEV$eLu5EHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Kenny S <hotmail@coldmail.com> typed:
> You are incorrect. You are talking about CD-R and not CD-RW
> With CD-RW you can erase files from the disk and space will be
> freed.
He *is* correct. He's talking about the Windows XP burning
software, which doesn't distingush between CDR and CDRW.
-- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > "_Vanguard_" <see_signature> wrote in message > news:%23aIm59l5EHA.3644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> "Kevin" <webman6@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:eJ95C$j5EHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> Packet writing enables you to use the CD as a 700 MB floppy >>> disk >>> that you can add or delete files on as often as you wish. >>> You >>> can't do that with the >>> Windows XP burning software. You can only write files to the >>> disk. >>> You can't then rewrite more files next week and still more >>> next >>> month then erase >>> some of them next year and write more and so on and so on. >>> If you >>> only wish >>> to write files to a disk the XP software will work for you. >>> >>> I use InCD and I love it. I also keep total updates on disks >>> in ISO >>> format, >>> finalizing the disk after writing to it and storing it for >>> future >>> recovery >>> using Nero. >>> >>> "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@trashearthlink.net> wrote in >>> message >>> news:%23zpKxvj5EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>> This is what I don't understand Kenny. If all I want to do >>>> is >>>> store data and transfer folders back and forth without >>>> adding or >>>> subtracting from them, what does packet writing do for me >>>> that the >>>> XP program can't do? I'm really in the dark about this >>>> answer and >>>> could really use a simple explanation if you will be kind >>>> enough >>>> to throw one my way :-) The only thing I store on my CD's >>>> are data files that don't need >>>> to be changed or altered, written material I've downloaded >>>> from >>>> the net, a web page or two, and some programs that are >>>> executable >>>> files that I can use to reinstall something in case I have a >>>> problem. Won't the XP burning program do this for me without >>>> packet writing? >>>> Thanks >>>> Dudley >>>> "Kenny S" <hotmail@coldmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23XHLBRj5EHA.828@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>> > InCD is superior since its packet writing leting you use >>>> > the >>>> > cdrom (RW) as a floppy or hard drive. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@trashearthlink.net> wrote >>>> > in >>>> > message news:ebm9M5i5EHA.1596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>> >> Question; >>>> >> I have two CDRW's that were formatted in InCD and used to >>>> >> store >>>> >> data files./ Assuming I want to get rid of InCD for good >>>> >> and >>>> >> begin using the built in XP CD program to transfer and >>>> >> store my >>>> >> data files to a CD, can I transfer what's on the InCD >>>> >> formatted >>>> >> CDRW's to my desktop in a folder, then uninstall InCD >>>> >> completely from the computer in add remove programs, >>>> >> then, >>>> >> using XP's built in program, insert a new blank CDRW into >>>> >> the >>>> >> drive and put my data on the new disk? Thanks much. >>>> >> Dudley >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> Okay, now I'm confused. Deleting files from a CD-RW doesn't >> actually >> delete the file. I thought it generated another session with >> an >> updated table of contents which omitted the file so you >> couldn't >> access it anymore. Not being able to access the file doesn't >> mean >> it isn't there. Not until you choose to erase the rewritable >> media >> do you lose all the sessions and start with a blank media >> again. You might have 700MB of files on the CD-RW, delete >> 100MB, but then >> you won't be able to add another 100MB because the omitted >> 100MB >> never really got physically deleted (it's hidden, not >> deleted). Eventually you fill up the CD-RW. Although you only >> have, say, 100MB >> of accessible files that you see on the CD-RW disc, there is >> another >> 600MB of hidden deleted files so the total capacity has been >> used >> up. You'll then have to erase the CD-RW using the procedure >> described in Windows XP's own help, which is: >> To erase files from a CD >> 1. Open My Computer. >> 2. Double-click the CD recording drive. Windows displays the >> files >> and folders located on the CD. >> 3. Under CD Writing Tasks, click Erase this CD-RW. Windows >> displays >> the CD Writing Wizard. >> 4. Follow the instructions in the wizard to delete the files >> on the >> CD-RW. >> Windows XP's built-in CD burning (IMAPI; see >> http://snipurl.com/imapi) does not generate UDF. Using UDF >> packet >> writing with InCD's or DirectCD's may mean that the >> UDF-written >> CD-RW disc may not be readable on the some older computers. I >> haven't kept track of InCD and DirectCD to see if they merged >> onto >> the same UDF standard so that any computer running a UDF >> reader >> could read the discs. You can get a free UDF reader from >> Roxio >> (http://snipurl.com/5js7; well, it used to be free but they >> got >> greedy - you can get the old Adaptec version at >> http://snipurl.com/9lax) and from Nero >> (http://www.nero.com/us/27603.html) could read your >> UDF-written >> disc; however, Windows XP already has a built-in UDF reader >> (http://snipurl.com/ms_udf) so you only need a UDF reader on >> older >> versions of Windows to read UDF-formatted CDs. Since Windows >> XP has >> its own UDF reader driver, you might try moving the files off >> the >> UDF-formatted CD-RW (as a safety measure), uninstall InCD, and >> then >> see if Windows XP can still read the UDF-formatted CDs. >> I've never found Nero's InCD or Roxio's DirectCD to be stable, >> and >> this was tested on prior versions of Windows on several hosts >> which >> didn't include a UDF reader/writer (so it wasn't a conflict >> between >> two installable file systems). They create too many blue >> screens >> for my taste. They run as installable file systems (just like >> CDFS >> loads to support CD-ROM drives); i.e., InCD, DirectCD, and >> Windows >> XP UDFS (read-only) install as a file system during the load >> of >> Windows. That's why you have to reboot when installing or >> uninstalling them. >> See also http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321640. >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> ******** Post replies to newsgroup - Share with others >> ******** >> Email: lh_811newsATyahooDOTcom AND append "=NEWS=" to Subject. >> _________________________________________________________________
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