Re: Can I get rid of InCD?

From: Kenny S (hotmail_at_coldmail.com)
Date: 12/20/04 

Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:25:56 +0200

You are incorrect. You are talking about CD-R and not CD-RW
With CD-RW you can erase files from the disk and space will be freed.

"_Vanguard_" <see_signature> wrote in message
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> "Kevin" <webman6@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Packet writing enables you to use the CD as a 700 MB floppy disk that you
>> can add or delete files on as often as you wish. You can't do that with
>> the
>> Windows XP burning software. You can only write files to the disk. You
>> can't then rewrite more files next week and still more next month then
>> erase
>> some of them next year and write more and so on and so on. If you only
>> wish
>> to write files to a disk the XP software will work for you.
>>
>> I use InCD and I love it. I also keep total updates on disks in ISO
>> format,
>> finalizing the disk after writing to it and storing it for future
>> recovery
>> using Nero.
>>
>> "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@trashearthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23zpKxvj5EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> This is what I don't understand Kenny. If all I want to do is store data
>>> and transfer folders back and forth without adding or subtracting from
>>> them, what does packet writing do for me that the XP program can't do?
>>> I'm really in the dark about this answer and could really use a simple
>>> explanation if you will be kind enough to throw one my way :-)
>>> The only thing I store on my CD's are data files that don't need to be
>>> changed or altered, written material I've downloaded from the net, a web
>>> page or two, and some programs that are executable files that I can use
>>> to reinstall something in case I have a problem.
>>> Won't the XP burning program do this for me without packet writing?
>>> Thanks
>>> Dudley
>>> "Kenny S" <hotmail@coldmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23XHLBRj5EHA.828@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> > InCD is superior since its packet writing leting you use the cdrom
>>> > (RW) as a floppy or hard drive.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@trashearthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:ebm9M5i5EHA.1596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Question;
>>> >> I have two CDRW's that were formatted in InCD and used to store data
>>> >> files./ Assuming I want to get rid of InCD for good and begin using
>>> >> the built in XP CD program to transfer and store my data files to a
>>> >> CD, can I transfer what's on the InCD formatted CDRW's to my desktop
>>> >> in a folder, then uninstall InCD completely from the computer in add
>>> >> remove programs, then, using XP's built in program, insert a new
>>> >> blank CDRW into the drive and put my data on the new disk?
>>> >> Thanks much.
>>> >> Dudley
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Okay, now I'm confused. Deleting files from a CD-RW doesn't actually
> delete the file. I thought it generated another session with an updated
> table of contents which omitted the file so you couldn't access it
> anymore. Not being able to access the file doesn't mean it isn't there.
> Not until you choose to erase the rewritable media do you lose all the
> sessions and start with a blank media again. You might have 700MB of
> files on the CD-RW, delete 100MB, but then you won't be able to add
> another 100MB because the omitted 100MB never really got physically
> deleted (it's hidden, not deleted). Eventually you fill up the CD-RW.
> Although you only have, say, 100MB of accessible files that you see on the
> CD-RW disc, there is another 600MB of hidden deleted files so the total
> capacity has been used up. You'll then have to erase the CD-RW using the
> procedure described in Windows XP's own help, which is:
>
> To erase files from a CD
> 1. Open My Computer.
> 2. Double-click the CD recording drive. Windows displays the files and
> folders located on the CD.
> 3. Under CD Writing Tasks, click Erase this CD-RW. Windows displays the CD
> Writing Wizard.
> 4. Follow the instructions in the wizard to delete the files on the CD-RW.
>
> Windows XP's built-in CD burning (IMAPI; see http://snipurl.com/imapi)
> does not generate UDF. Using UDF packet writing with InCD's or DirectCD's
> may mean that the UDF-written CD-RW disc may not be readable on the some
> older computers. I haven't kept track of InCD and DirectCD to see if they
> merged onto the same UDF standard so that any computer running a UDF
> reader could read the discs. You can get a free UDF reader from Roxio
> (http://snipurl.com/5js7; well, it used to be free but they got greedy -
> you can get the old Adaptec version at http://snipurl.com/9lax) and from
> Nero (http://www.nero.com/us/27603.html) could read your UDF-written disc;
> however, Windows XP already has a built-in UDF reader
> (http://snipurl.com/ms_udf) so you only need a UDF reader on older
> versions of Windows to read UDF-formatted CDs. Since Windows XP has its
> own UDF reader driver, you might try moving the files off the
> UDF-formatted CD-RW (as a safety measure), uninstall InCD, and then see if
> Windows XP can still read the UDF-formatted CDs.
>
> I've never found Nero's InCD or Roxio's DirectCD to be stable, and this
> was tested on prior versions of Windows on several hosts which didn't
> include a UDF reader/writer (so it wasn't a conflict between two
> installable file systems). They create too many blue screens for my
> taste. They run as installable file systems (just like CDFS loads to
> support CD-ROM drives); i.e., InCD, DirectCD, and Windows XP UDFS
> (read-only) install as a file system during the load of Windows. That's
> why you have to reboot when installing or uninstalling them.
>
> See also http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321640.
>
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