Re: And what an asset you are you moron.

From: johnf (john_f_at_bigREMOVEpond.net.au)
Date: 08/28/04 

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:48:35 +1000

Psychic, yet? 

--
johnf
> You don't put yourself out on a limb because you have nothing to offer
> to help.
> You prefer to spam. Get a life.
>
> Chad Harris
>
>
> "johnf" <john_f@bigREMOVEpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:OGnfbAJjEHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Chad, I don't put myself out on a limb; if enough info is given, then if
> possible I will offer advice based on more CONCRETE symptoms.
> I initially only replied to your inital post to warn Debbie to take your
> verbal diarrhoea (which is still prominent in your replies to D.Currie)
> with a grain of salt.
>
> --
>
> johnf
>
>> *There isn't *one post* on any of these groups currently where "johnf"
>> has offered anthing to remedy a problem.  What a collossal surprise
>> that is!!! Mr. critique who specializes in the art of the critic only
>> but can't begin to post an actual solution to a problem.
>>
>> Chad Harris
>> _________________________________________
>> "johnf" <john_f@bigREMOVEpond.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:eLIpMR8iEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Exactly. It was the Belarc advice that prompted me to reply.
>> We have a situation here of an apparently inacessible PC, at least as
>> far as Debbie & her friend are concerned.
>>
>> Also we have an egotistical "I want you to" reply from Chad, with
>> advice ranging from a simple 'try hitting this key' to a complete
>> Repair/Reinstall.
>> It's quite apparent from what he said that he doesn't fully understand
>> what Debbie's trying to say, so the obvious thing would be is just to
>> ask a couple of pertinent questions to get some clarification, instead
>> of surmising, going through all the fixes he thinks he knows and
>> probably now has completely confused the poor girl.
>>
>> I'll sit back a bit on this one until I see Debbie's response & also
>> how Mr. ("Lay it on me/The fat lady ain't done sung/fer sure") Harris
>> sorts it out.
>> --
>>
>> johnf
>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <ddram32_nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uw1Wsc4iEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> What do you do when *you can't get into Safe Mode John*?  Lay it on
>>>> me. Because if that box will turn on, she might be able to change her
>>>> bios order to boot from a CD."Debbie can't even get into Safemode!" *So 
>>>> what she can't get into Safe Mode?*   The fat lady ain't done
>>>> sung because of that piece of info--or has she for you when that
>>>> happens?What do you do when *you can't get into Safe Mode John*?  Lay
>>>> it on me.  Until I know "fer sure", I can't assume that the box won't
>>>> turn on, nor that the advice I gave her isn't viable.
>>>>
>>>> People can't get into safe mode but can recover a high percent of the
>>>> time. See:
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hthegator&ie=UTF-8&hl=en
>>>>
>>>> I think the point is whether she can boot from the CD or she has a
>>>> dead box--whether there is a software problem that can be repaired or
>>>> a hardware problem where she and her friend will have to summon help.
>>>> I don't know for certain,  because I'm not in Debbieland right now.
>>>> That's *why we have these groups John*.  Until we know whether she
>>>> can turn the box on and see a firmware or POST screen and enter the
>>>> bios, then boot from the CD--the fact that she sees a blank screen
>>>> that's blue or dark gray or black doesn't rule that out. I've seen
>>>> plenty of "blank screens" where you pushed the button, got into bios
>>>> setup, changed the boot order, and booted from a CD of some type and
>>>> repaired the OS. I've been reading posts like hers for years, and
>>>> much of the time restoration was possible via a repair or parallel
>>>> install and even rarely and I mean rarely via Last Known Good,  and a 
>>>> sketchy
>>>> post like that may mean a wide gamut of things from hardware failure
>>>> to the possibility that if she hard button starts, she can boot from
>>>> the CD. I don't know if nothing will come up when she tries to
>>>> manually restart her friend's computer or not.  I'm not Carnack the
>>>> Magician,
>>>> and I can only prompt people for more information they should have
>>>> given me in the first place. I see scores of posts on these groups
>>>> where the version of Office or
>>>> flavor of the OS is needed and never given not to mention other
>>>> relevant pieces of history?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, what does "can't get into Safe Mode" mean to you?  I'd be really
>>>> interested.  It certainly doesn't mean that she's never going to see
>>>> Windows on that machine does it my man?  Take a look at some recent
>>>> posts I've helped with on the XP General group?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a point I'm missing in can't get up to Safe Mode?  How about
>>>> an inplace upgrade booting from the CD?  We don't really know if her
>>>> box is a door stop at this point or she still has some booting
>>>> ability, and after posting 35 or so exclamation points since 5:34AM
>>>> Debbie hasn't favored us with more helpful information.
>>>>
>>>> The worst that could happen is that she tries every which way to
>>>> Christmas to tap to the bios setup and can't and then gets a "hands
>>>> on" help.   But until then, my man, we don't know.
>>>>
>>>> Would you assume everytime a doctor sees an isoelectric EKG on a
>>>> street or in a hospital room or a living room that the person is just 
>>>> dead and non-resuscible, or that there might be moves that can
>>>> get things back to normal--or that it might even be fine fib masking
>>>> as a straight line?  If a person is lying fairly still does that mean
>>>> they're dead--leave them alone?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether that box will turn on and you don't either--and
>>>> I can't press the button for her.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether she has an XP CD or her friend does or her
>>>> friend's friend does?  I can only work with the hand that's dealt me.
>>>> If she does get some action out of the box, maybe I'll here from her.
>>>> Some people post and then decide to throw the box in their car and
>>>> take it some where. I can only work with what I see.
>>>>
>>>> She and some other people also have a decent blue print for what to
>>>> try when they can't get into Safe Mode, and I have something I can
>>>> paste to help the next person, when in a few hours or days from now
>>>> someone else can't get into safe mode but can boot from the CD.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Chad Harris
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem with a cut-and-paste post with the complexity of yours is
>>> that while some of it may be completely on target for a given
>>> situation, other parts won't apply at all, and may confuse the person
>>> getting the message or convince them that you didn't read their
>>> message and can't possibly have a useful answer, thus they'll ignore
>>> the good advice given.
>>> In this case, given the lack of clarity in the original question, an
>>> attempt to get back into the bios or to boot from the CD make sense.
>>> But the suggestion to download and run belarc to determine the bios is
>>> a bit of a problem, as the poster isn't getting into Windows to be
>>> able to run the program. Some people will key in on that bit of
>>> advice and assume that you haven't read the question at all and are
>>> just posting general repair advice that's not targeted at the
>>> particular problem at hand.