And what an asset you are you moron.

From: Chad Harris (ddram32_nospam_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 08/28/04 

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:13:11 -0400

You don't put yourself out on a limb because you have nothing to offer to
help.
You prefer to spam. Get a life.

Chad Harris

"johnf" <john_f@bigREMOVEpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:OGnfbAJjEHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Chad, I don't put myself out on a limb; if enough info is given, then if
possible I will offer advice based on more CONCRETE symptoms.
I initially only replied to your inital post to warn Debbie to take your
verbal diarrhoea (which is still prominent in your replies to D.Currie) with
a grain of salt. 

--
johnf
> *There isn't *one post* on any of these groups currently where "johnf"
> has offered anthing to remedy a problem.  What a collossal surprise
> that is!!! Mr. critique who specializes in the art of the critic only
> but can't begin to post an actual solution to a problem.
>
> Chad Harris
> _________________________________________
> "johnf" <john_f@bigREMOVEpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:eLIpMR8iEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Exactly. It was the Belarc advice that prompted me to reply.
> We have a situation here of an apparently inacessible PC, at least as
> far as Debbie & her friend are concerned.
>
> Also we have an egotistical "I want you to" reply from Chad, with advice
> ranging from a simple 'try hitting this key' to a complete
> Repair/Reinstall.
> It's quite apparent from what he said that he doesn't fully understand
> what Debbie's trying to say, so the obvious thing would be is just to
> ask a couple of pertinent questions to get some clarification, instead
> of surmising, going through all the fixes he thinks he knows and
> probably now has completely confused the poor girl.
>
> I'll sit back a bit on this one until I see Debbie's response & also
> how Mr. ("Lay it on me/The fat lady ain't done sung/fer sure") Harris
> sorts it out.
> --
>
> johnf
>
>> "Chad Harris" <ddram32_nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:uw1Wsc4iEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> What do you do when *you can't get into Safe Mode John*?  Lay it on
>>> me. Because if that box will turn on, she might be able to change her
>>> bios order to boot from a CD."Debbie can't even get into Safemode!"  *So 
>>> what she can't get into Safe Mode?*   The fat lady ain't done sung
>>> because of that piece of info--or has she for you when that
>>> happens?What do you do when *you can't get into Safe Mode John*?  Lay
>>> it on me.  Until I know "fer sure", I can't assume that the box won't
>>> turn on, nor that the advice I gave her isn't viable.
>>>
>>> People can't get into safe mode but can recover a high percent of the
>>> time. See:
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hthegator&ie=UTF-8&hl=en
>>>
>>> I think the point is whether she can boot from the CD or she has a
>>> dead box--whether there is a software problem that can be repaired or
>>> a hardware problem where she and her friend will have to summon help.
>>> I don't know for certain,  because I'm not in Debbieland right now.
>>> That's *why we have these groups John*.  Until we know whether she can
>>> turn the box on and see a firmware or POST screen and enter the bios,
>>> then boot from the CD--the fact that she sees a blank screen that's
>>> blue or dark gray or black doesn't rule that out. I've seen plenty of
>>> "blank screens" where you pushed the button, got into bios setup,
>>> changed the boot order, and booted from a CD of some type and repaired
>>> the OS. I've been reading posts like hers for years, and much of the
>>> time restoration was possible via a repair or parallel install and
>>> even rarely and I mean rarely via Last Known Good,  and a sketchy
>>> post like that may mean a wide gamut of things from hardware failure
>>> to the possibility that if she hard button starts, she can boot from
>>> the CD. I don't know if nothing will come up when she tries to
>>> manually restart her friend's computer or not.  I'm not Carnack the 
>>> Magician,
>>> and I can only prompt people for more information they should have
>>> given me in the first place. I see scores of posts on these groups
>>> where the version of Office or
>>> flavor of the OS is needed and never given not to mention other
>>> relevant pieces of history?
>>>
>>> BTW, what does "can't get into Safe Mode" mean to you?  I'd be really
>>> interested.  It certainly doesn't mean that she's never going to see
>>> Windows on that machine does it my man?  Take a look at some recent
>>> posts I've helped with on the XP General group?
>>>
>>> Is there a point I'm missing in can't get up to Safe Mode?  How about
>>> an inplace upgrade booting from the CD?  We don't really know if her
>>> box is a door stop at this point or she still has some booting
>>> ability, and after posting 35 or so exclamation points since 5:34AM
>>> Debbie hasn't favored us with more helpful information.
>>>
>>> The worst that could happen is that she tries every which way to
>>> Christmas to tap to the bios setup and can't and then gets a "hands
>>> on" help.   But until then, my man, we don't know.
>>>
>>> Would you assume everytime a doctor sees an isoelectric EKG on a
>>> street or in a hospital room or a living room that the person is  just
>>> dead and non-resuscible, or that there might be moves that can get
>>> things back to normal--or that it might even be fine fib masking as a
>>> straight line?  If a person is lying fairly still does that mean
>>> they're dead--leave them alone?
>>>
>>> I don't know whether that box will turn on and you don't either--and I
>>> can't press the button for her.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether she has an XP CD or her friend does or her
>>> friend's friend does?  I can only work with the hand that's dealt me.
>>> If she does get some action out of the box, maybe I'll here from her.
>>> Some people post and then decide to throw the box in their car and
>>> take it some where. I can only work with what I see.
>>>
>>> She and some other people also have a decent blue print for what to
>>> try when they can't get into Safe Mode, and I have something I can
>>> paste to help the next person, when in a few hours or days from now
>>> someone else can't get into safe mode but can boot from the CD.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Chad Harris
>>
>>
>> The problem with a cut-and-paste post with the complexity of yours is
>> that while some of it may be completely on target for a given
>> situation, other parts won't apply at all, and may confuse the person
>> getting the message or convince them that you didn't read their message
>> and can't possibly have a useful answer, thus they'll ignore the good
>> advice given.
>> In this case, given the lack of clarity in the original question, an
>> attempt to get back into the bios or to boot from the CD make sense.
>> But the suggestion to download and run belarc to determine the bios is
>> a bit of a problem, as the poster isn't getting into Windows to be able
>> to run the program. Some people will key in on that bit of advice and
>> assume that you haven't read the question at all and are just posting
>> general repair advice that's not targeted at the particular problem at
>> hand.
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