Re: XP SP 2: Is it worth it? Absolutely. Problems are way over-hyped.

From: Chad Harris (ddram32_nospam_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 08/27/04 

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:07:50 -0400

David--

And everybody should put a little effort forward to learn about it. That
means they have to be willing to do a *little reading*--I know it's become a
curse in the country where I live, and reading is way down as a passtime. I
also live in a country where a highly significant percent of people age
18-30 get their news from a show on a cable comedy channel.

If Jon Stewart were to start a mini-Tech TV segment on his show, maybe a lot
more people would know how to update their bios, and the cream of the U.S.'s
college population might become as adept at keeping up their virus defs and
firewall as they are at using E-Donkey and Kazaa Lite and its new
incarnation to steal music before their schools pull the curtain down with
firewalls that block the file shares.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/02/apontv.stewarts.stature.ap/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/01/entertainment/main603270.shtml

MSFT has a ton of help on their site to orient you to SP2 or whatever
service pack, OS, or Office version they come out with and people on these
groups have posted a ton of links.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/default.mspx

 You can lead the horseys to water, but some of them refuse to drink any of
it and then bitch and whine later that they're thirsty. All you have to do
is to be willing to type www.microsoft.com in your browser, and you can get
to a plethora of SP2 How To's.

I'm sure there is software and hardware that will read to you. But I don't
know that we will have hardware and software anytime soon that will read to
your hardware and software so that you don't have to do *anything* to
maintain it.

Chad Harris
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"David Terme" <terme0@free.fr> wrote in message
news:eTrA4gwiEHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
yea... of course people who don't hav any trouble don't post it... but
people who have (and there are many whatever u say) get their computer
screwed up, when it can be absolutely necessary for them to use it (for work
for example, which is my case). so, comparing the number of people who do
have trouble and people who don't have is NOT a good way of putting the
issue. the thing is, when a company like microsoft comes with a new SP, it
HAS to work for everybody.

"Pam" <phfloresatverizondotnet> a écrit dans le message de
news:OSjRisviEHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> "Chad Harris" <ddram32_nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eOq$B1SiEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | Tim--
> |
> | Things are a lot more stable than some of these reports
> would indicate.
> | The caveat that people who are having little or no problem
> don't post is
> | well worth considering. Its definitely worth updating,
> because it contains a
> | lot of fixes since SP1. There is also an excellent change
> that it's the last
> | major change to XP and last major Service Pack until
> Longhorn releases.
> | There may or may not be another SP and there may or may not
> be an XP
> | Reloaded. The ladies and gentleman from Microsoft are a
> lot better readers
> | of tea leaves than I am in that area.
> |
> | If you are having a problem with a 3rd party app, go to
> their site and see
> | what the say. It's running in 3 categories--most are
> compatible by far;
> | some have patches for SP2 compatibility; and for somejust
> adding the port
> | to the firewall exceptions tab is the issue (for example
> Raxco Perfect Disk
> | which has a batch file that automatically does this). A few
> have chosen to
> | do nothing and say nothing and that's unfortunate and hardly
> MSFT's
> | responsibility.
> |
> | People I know well who have installed it--not a
> multicentered trial, but
> | average and advanced users who are willing to go to a 3rd
> party site if they
> | have a problem or search engine for an answer are having
> little or no
> | problem. Many of them went after it the day the public beta
> was released
> | in early June and have been using it with little or no
> problem since then
> | (RC2).
> |
> | I have had next to no problems with it and I'd definitely
> install it.
> | Having read much of what's written about it , and used
> different builds for
> | months, I find it very stable.
> |
> | Top 10 Reasons to Install SP2
> |
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2top.mspx
> |
> | A Little More SP2 Info and Slipstream Directions for SP2
> | http://www.theeldergeek.com/
> |
> | Changes to Functionality in SP2
> |
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2chngs.mspx
> |
> | List of Fixes in SP2
> |
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;811113
> |
> | Release Notes For SP2
> |
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=835935&product=windowsxpsp2
> |
> |
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/winxpsp2.mspx
> |
> |
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/technologiesoverview.mspx
> |
> |
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0204.mspx
> |
> |
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/winxp/windowsxpspfs.asp
> |
> |
> |
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2
> |
> |
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242&product=windowsxpsp2
> |
> | Best,
> |
> | Chad Harris
>
> Chad: I agree with you that a lot of people who aren't having
> problems with SP2 are not posting, but there are a quite a lot
> who are. I'm one of those posters who has mentioned several
> times that I had No trouble with the download or install, but
> I got it from the MS download site not Auto Update.
>
> I've had no problems with any programs, didn't loose any
> files, and had no trouble setting it up with my existing
> NAV/NIS 2003, existing pop-up blocker, and firewall. There is
> a minor thing that Symantec is working on and that is Security
> Center can see I have an antivirus program (NAV) but "status
> is unknown". This doesn't present a problem for me since I
> update my antiviral daily so I don't need to know the status.
>
> To prepare my computer for download, I did follow most of
> Jupiter Jones MVP recomendations at
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm
>
> I too wish more people, who have had successful results would
> post, but if you look around especially in MS Windows Update
> Newsgroup you'll find quite a lot over the last 2 weeks.
>
> I do have a concern with SP2 but I don't considered it a
> problem and have yet to get a answer from someone who really
> knows the answer, and that is when the Windows firewall is
> turned off, why does it show it running in "task manager" and
> "msconfig/services". I just want to make sure it really is
> off, not on and I have rec'd some good input from several
> posters, but none from anyone who knows for sure why this
> programs runs in these two places even when it's turned off.
> My only concern is that it doesn't interfere with NIS
> firewall. If you know anything about this let me know,
> because it doesn't seem like disabling Windows firewall in
> services.msc is the answer, but who knows, it only seems to
> make the Firewall settings unaccessable once you do this.
>
> Pam
>
>
>
> | _____________________________
> |
> | "Tim" <hwy375@bigred.unl.edu> wrote in message
> | news:cgbq7q$47q$1@unlnews.unl.edu...
> | I'm seeing lots of complaints about SP 2. Is it worth
> getting? I have what I
> | think is a standard system set up (XP home, IE, etc. -
> nothing that's listed
> | on MS Update's list of troublesome programs.) What are the
> chances that SP
> | will cause problems? Is it worth updating?
> |
> | Tim
> |
> | --
> |
> |
>
>

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