Re: is XP SP2 RC2 advisable for the average FCKGW user?

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From: perfb (perfb_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/21/04 

Date: 20 Jun 2004 18:47:28 -0700

> > yes, quite so, the SP2 RC2 does not work on FCKGW,
> > which I discovered after downloading all 260Mb of it,
> > even though M$ has publically announced that SP2 will
> > eventually work on FCKGW variants.
> >
> > So, evidently they are still getting around to it.
>
> We did not publicaly announce that the SP2 will work on yor stolen/pirated
> software.
> It will not - please stop using stolen/pirated software.

evidently I was reading old news, circa May 2004.

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http://computertimes.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,5104,2292,00.html

"Microsoft's increasing concern over information security has
translated into its decision to bite the bullet and make its upcoming
SP2 (Service Pack 2) security patch available to all users - including
those using pirated copies of its Windows XP software. "

"We haven't explicitly done anything to SP2 to exclude it from pirated
copies," said Microsoft group product manager Barry Goffe. The United
States-based executive was interviewed via telephone."
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Since May, M$ evidently has changed their mind yet again,
continuing in their trend of fundamental disregard for
internet security and avoiding responsibility for the consequences
of their product defects. I hope those product liability lawsuits
are gathering steam.

>
> From
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/chats/trans/security/sec1211.mspx
> Host: Mike_Nash (Microsoft)
> Q: Christian_Hougardy_MVP : Mike, we are slowly coming to our monthly
> question about patching illegal versions. Did you change your mind about it,
> or do we have to ask again ?
> A: This is a hard question Cristian. We have not changed our mind here.
> People with illegal copies cannot get updates from WU
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/chats/trans/security/sec0504.mspx
> Host: Mike Nash (Microsoft)
> Q: Thanks Mike. But how is Microsoft getting the message out to those end
> users? It does not seem like they are getting it
> A: It's a fair point Jim. I can't quote numbers, but a few things worthy of
> note. The number of people using WU is up a lot. We need it to be higher but
> the numbers are better. Overall, firewalls are being used more. The result
> is more customers having a good experience in worm events like Sasser. That
> said, getting people to install SP2 will be a very important opportunity for
> customers to be safer. We are going to be working hard to get as many people
> as possible to move to SP2. There have also been quite a few questions about
> SP2 on pirated machines. We will require a customer to have a legitimate
> copy of XP in order to install SP2.
>
> > > > just wondering what the consensus is on SP2 RC2 re the 'average' user,
> > > > is there a lot of issues/crashes/fubar going on? Or, is RC2 at least
> > > > as reliable as the original XP?
> > > >
> > > > I have a few FCKGw unlicensed XP boxes and would like to try RC2
> > > > mainly for virus protection as it seems these days the virus
> > > > writers are winning the game and the average Windows user has exactly
> a
> > > > 0.000% chance of remaining uninfected, and a 100.000% chance of
> > > > having an unusable XP box, within a week of doing surfing/email.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of
> Windows
> > > XP.
> > > I suggest you go out an buy a copy of Windows XP for each of your PCs.
> >
> > hahahahahahahaha!!!!
> > snort!
> > and have to do some idiot activation ritual on each one?
> > fat chance, bubba.
>
> A whole one click of a mouse to activate - not exactly a ritual ?
>
> > I'd rather stick with FCKGW, which is blissfully free of such stupidity.
> >
>
> And also unable to be patched to protect you and everyone from various
> issues.
>
> >
> > > Replace your pirated copies of Windows XP with the new legally purchased
> > > retail one and then apply the SP to your designated test machines (until
> we
> > > release the product).
> > >
> > > The short answer is no SP2 does not work well on your stolen/pirated
> > > software - it will not apply at all.
> >
> > but M$ has publically promised it will.
> > eventually.
> > evidently they are changing their minds all the time though ...
> >
>
> No we did not, see the quotes above.
> SP2 is for legitimate users of Windows XP only.
>
>
> --
>
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>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
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> "perfb" <perfb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:775799ec.0406192225.4028236f@posting.google.com...
> > yes, quite so, the SP2 RC2 does not work on FCKGW,
> > which I discovered after downloading all 260Mb of it,
> > even though M$ has publically announced that SP2 will
> > eventually work on FCKGW variants.
> >
> > So, evidently they are still getting around to it.
> >
> > > > just wondering what the consensus is on SP2 RC2 re the 'average' user,
> > > > is there a lot of issues/crashes/fubar going on? Or, is RC2 at least
> > > > as reliable as the original XP?
> > > >
> > > > I have a few FCKGw unlicensed XP boxes and would like to try RC2
> > > > mainly for virus protection as it seems these days the virus
> > > > writers are winning the game and the average Windows user has exactly
> a
> > > > 0.000% chance of remaining uninfected, and a 100.000% chance of
> > > > having an unusable XP box, within a week of doing surfing/email.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of
> Windows
> > > XP.
> > > I suggest you go out an buy a copy of Windows XP for each of your PCs.
> >
> > hahahahahahahaha!!!!
> > snort!
> > and have to do some idiot activation ritual on each one?
> > fat chance, bubba.
> > I'd rather stick with FCKGW, which is blissfully free of such stupidity.
> >
> >
> > > Replace your pirated copies of Windows XP with the new legally purchased
> > > retail one and then apply the SP to your designated test machines (until
> we
> > > release the product).
> > >
> > > The short answer is no SP2 does not work well on your stolen/pirated
> > > software - it will not apply at all.
> >
> > but M$ has publically promised it will.
> > eventually.
> > evidently they are changing their minds all the time though ...
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If a solid SP2 doesnt come out soon, Linux might really finally
> > > > eat M$'s lunch, and we would all be better off for it.

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