Re: FIXMBR redux

From: Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\) (user_at_#notme.com)
Date: 06/02/04 

Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 17:43:47 -0700

William, I said this is all I could conclude from this and I did raise the
possibility of this issue at the very outset.

That said, you're assertion is not quite correct.. Images are used all the
time to recover from system crashes and similar situations without issue but
that is to the same physical drive. However, when you image to a new hard
drive, one that the OS didn't see when it was first installed, because it
was not connected to the system at the time, you are changing the parameters
of the setup. If you understand XP's activation and anti-piracy scheme, it
makes perfect sense. Usually, they can get around this by doing a repair
install. I also told you at the outset, I wasn't sure this could be done
for precisely that reason.

It makes perfect sense if the new hard drive is not included in the original
hash created during System setup. If a user changes motherboards and
nothing, else, they usually have to do a repair install as well.

I'm not certain if this is the issue here but it fits all the criteria and
it's all I can conclude from the information.

My suggestion is to take this to the hardware board as they may have
experience with this and may come up with something else as the reason.
But, they need to be aware of the fact, the cloned drive was not connected
to the system when XP was first installed. They may say, it makes no
difference it should work. On the other hand, they may see the same thing
I've seen and given the error messages come to the same conclusion. This is
all that I can tell you as I've never tried to do what you are doing and I
haven't seen this exact situation elsewhere. 

-- 
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
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"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message 
news:40BD1C0A.6040908@nospam.org...
> Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) wrote:
>> The problem occurs when you try to boot the slave, is that correct? Even 
>> if you change the slave to the master, the former slave drive has a 
>> cloned image from a different hard drive of an OS installation that was 
>> installed while the slave drive was not installed.  I'm not sure if even 
>> having it installed would make a difference but the error you mention is 
>> typical of trying to image to a different computer than the one on which 
>> XP was originally installed.
>>
>> I can only deduce from that and what you have described and the fact the 
>> slave hard drive was not connected to this computer when the OS was 
>> installed that it is being seen as a different computer.
>>
> No, that is not correct, Michael.
> I have a hard drive.
> I make a drive image of it.
> That image happens to be on a different hard drive,
> but it could just as well have been on a set of CDs.
> I want to make an operating system out of that
> image. You've stated that the error I mentioned is
> typical of trying to image to a different computer than the
> one on which XP was originally installed.
>
> You are implying that no error would occur if I put
> the OS back on the 'computer' where it was. That does
> not make sense to me, because Drive Images and Ghosts
> are used daily in cases where a drive fails altogether
> and the Ghost or Dive Image is used to recreate the
> system on a totally new drive. I don't think the
> instructions imply any restrictions on the physical
> medium to which the Image is restored.
>
> I think that Sharon or somebody gave us a different
> line of reasoning, that D-I can't handle this complicated
> an MBR, one with a choice of OS or RC. That's why I asked
> you to help me restore my original master OS to the
> condition where, in boot-up, it acts as though there is
> no such thing as a Recovery Console. That's the way it was
> when you helped me install the RC.
>
> -- 
>                    William B. Lurie

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