Re: Messenger Service

From: David Candy (david_at_mvps.org)
Date: 05/13/04


Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:56:35 +1000

Some programs use messenger service to communicate with the user. The problem isn't with messenger service but the fact you are networking with the world. In 9x the default was not to network internet connections but because XP is designed to be networked the default is to network everything. Also the base networking was NetBeui in 9x but TCP/IP in NT (NT4/2000/XP prior to NT4 it was also NetBeui) which is also the same protocol as the internet. So 9x assumed that a TCP/IP connection was going to be used for the internet but XP doesn't as till recently it was likely to be used for a network connection (it's a CORPORATE designed operating system that MS modified a bit and sold to home users to save development costs).

Networks handle file sharing, corporate type email, system administration, automatically finding other computers on the network, or anything a program wants to do. Internet is a collection of protocols for specific tasks (web, news, email, etc).

Networks have their own security but are designed to run within a secure network. By networking your internet connection you are allowing the world access to your computer.

A firewall prevents networking from working. So enable the firewall is one solution. But the correct way is in the connection's properties on the WINS page disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. NetBIOS is the actual interface to networking, no NetBios no networking available.

Therefore to get messenger popups two things need to be wrong.
1. A firewall is not enabled. A firewall is needed at the interface of a network to the internet. On a standalone computer that is at the computer. Not doing this allows internet and networking security flaws to be exploited.
2. The internet connection is wrongly configured as a network connection (ie allows NetBios over TCP/IP). This allows networking security flaws to be exploited and as the network security assumes a non hostile network this is not a good idea to expose to everyone in the world.

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"Michael Hobbs" <Xmdhobbs@qwest.net> wrote in message news:TMAoc.123$f56.54145@news.uswest.net...
> He refered to his 'home machine' in the singular.. If he were on a corporate
> network I could see  maybe the net admin wants messenger service. But on a
> home machine? Also. he mentioned getting messenger service pop-ups. Could
> someone explain that for me? Is the original poster confusing messenger with
> other pop-up's by chance. I finally deactivated msmessenger after being
> warned in here several times, but I never got any ads or anything that I
> could ever trace to Microsoft's messenger service.
> 
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DPwVXHOEHA.128@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > It is not a good practice to disable the Messenger Service in Windows XP.
> > When you disable this service on any operating system, it is no longer
> > available for receiving legitimate messages, such as administrative alerts
> > and notifications from antivirus programs.
> >
> > 3 Steps to Help Ensure your PC is Protected
> > http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
> >
> > Frequently Asked Questions About Antivirus Software
> > http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/antivirus.asp
> >
> > Special note if you use AOL:
> >
> > America Online installs its own connection settings that override
> > the ones that come with Windows XP.  America Online's
> > connection settings don't include a way to turn on Windows XP's
> > built-in firewall.
> >
> > Visit the following web site for instructions on downloading
> > a FREE firewall program for your computer.
> >
> > Ref:  http://www.updatexp.com/free.html
> >
> > Consider purchasing a top-notch Internet Security program
> > that will help protect your PC from future viruses, hackers, and
> > privacy threats:
> > http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/
> >
> > -- 
> > Carey Frisch
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows XP - Shell/User
> >
> > Be Smart!  Protect your PC!
> > http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> >
> > "Mike" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message:
> >  news:c42201c43859$b244bab0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >
> > |I have installed XP Prof on my home machine and I keep on
> > | getting these Messenger Service pop ups. How do I get rid
> > | of these?
> > |
> > | Please help.
> 
> 


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