Re: Problem Copying Files to a ZIP Drive

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From: R. C. White (RCWhite_at_msn.com)
Date: 05/11/04


Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:57:25 -0500

Hi, Joe.

The "size on disk" may be much more than that, depending on how the Zip
drive is formatted. Even a 1-byte file will take a full allocation unit
("cluster"), and the size of a cluster depends on the format. If the Zip is
using NTFS with typical 4 KB clusters, 5,000 files would take at least 20
MB, even if every file was less than 4 KB. If they were 1 KB each, for
example, they would total 5 MB, but they would take 20 MB of disk space.

If 5,000 files total 224 MB, the average size is 44.8 KB. An average file
would take a dozen 4 KB clusters, because 11 clusters would not hold the
entire file. Of course, it's not likely that each of your files is the
"average" size. And 5,000 * 12 * 4 KB = 240 MB. In general, a group of
files of random sizes will waste 1/2 cluster per file, so 5,000 files would
waste 10 MB using 4 KB clusters, or 256 MB using 512-byte clusters.
Depending on the sizes of YOUR files, you MAY be able to crowd them all into
250 MB by reformatting your Zip drive.

For a 250 MB HD, WinXP uses a default cluster size of 4 KB when formatting
FAT16, 2 KB for FAT32 and 512 bytes for NTFS. (For details, see this page
in the online version of the Windows XP Pro Resource Kit:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp)

RC

-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"Joe Harman" <harmanj1@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:hsSdnUY1XbdF3z3dRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> The total files are <224 mb.
>
>
> "Nick Burns" <thedoc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cvT1DwNEHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> 5000 will never fit on a 250 meg zip. Just copy less then 250 megs of
> data.
>> It all depends on the size of each pictures, do you know how big each
>> picture is...? If not, find out.
>>
>> "Joe Harman" <harmanj1@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:CP6dnQEJIewkrT3dRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>> > I tried to copy several (>5000) jpg files from a CD that I had created
> to
>> a
>> > 250 MB Iomega Zip disk.  It failed several times so I copied the files
>> from
>> > the CD to the C:\ drive with no problem.  I then attempted to copy the
>> files
>> > from the C:\ drive to the Zip disk.  It copies some of the files then
>> halts
>> > and displays an "Error Copying FIle or Folder" dialog box with the
> message
>> > "Cannot Copy filenmxxxx:The Directory or File Cannot Be Created.  I
>> thought
>> > maybe the number of files being copied might have had some effect so I
>> > copied only a few but it doesn't seem to matter.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know what my problem might be?  The files can be copied 
>> > from
>> one
>> > folder to another within the C:\ and were copied from a CD to the C:\
>> drive.
>> > But when I try to copy that same file to the Zip Drive, it fails.  It
>> seeems
>> > to be consistent with particular files. 


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