Re: Finally! The cable monopoly might fall (OT for a couple of newsgroups)

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From: Norm (spam_at_spam.com)
Date: 04/03/04 

Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 04:15:30 GMT

Which figures do you think are optimistic the cable speed or dsl?

"johnf" <john_f@bigREMOVEpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:uj37s9SGEHA.3576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "With cable, I am getting approximately 3000 Kbps download speed "
>
> "And DSL ADSL - regular home use), even if it were available to me, is
> > realistically like approx 8 times dial up speed, or 400 Kbps " ????
>
> Methinks your figures are 'slightly' optimistic.
>
> --
> johnf
>
> > This is about high speed Internet via cable.
> >
> > I asked a few weeks ago if there was anything I could do because I
> > have satellite TV, and when Internet cable became available, I jumped
> > in. I complained that Comcast Cable was charging me 25% more than if
> > I had cable TV. I thought this was completely unfair and gave an
> > unfair advantage to Comcast. People who want high speed Internet
> > access will stick with them even though they're TV service kind of
> > sucks when stacked up to what satellite dollar for dollar.
> >
> > It is not as if high speed Internet is available to me.
> >
> > Satellite Internet is kind of a joke - as I understand it, and this is
> > not to be taken as gospel as I could be wrong, it is only 5 times the
> > download speed of dial up. So 250Kbps. And even worse they want like
> > $600 down & the $60 a month access fee. Satellite should only be
> > considered if you have no cable or DSL available, and it isn't going
> > to get there soon either.
> >
> > And DSL ADSL - regular home use), even if it were available to me, is
> > realistically like approx 8 times dial up speed, or 400 Kbps - I
> > think. Or faster, if you pay the extra for the faster service - and I
> > don't know what speeds the faster DSL service tops out at - if it is
> > even comparable to cable (I don't think so)
> >
> > With cable, I am getting approximately 3000 Kbps download speed -
> > only about 250 Kbps upload speed however, but an acceptable tradeoff
> > to get the faster download speed.
> >
> > So really, there is no comparing. Cable TV's lines are akin to what
> > phone lines went through - they were declared an unfair monopoly, and
> > the owners had to open them up to completion. So what if they
> > invested their $$ in the 1st place. Tough beans. Tough beans to
> > everyone - tough beans to Microsoft even though they spent their own
> > money and became the standard and have to open up their operating
> > system now.
> >
> > Anyway - here is something I just spied in the tech news today. If
> > this does end up happening, Comcast cannot screw me anymore out of the
> > extra 25%, or $15 a month, because I am damn sure we'll see some
> > prices drop, at least a bit.
> > ============---------------------=============
> > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal appeals court is standing by its
> > October ruling that cable TV operators should open their lines to
> > rivals who also want to use them to sell high-speed Internet service.
> >
> > The Federal Communications Commission asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court
> > of Appeals to revisit the decision, but the court declined to do so
> > late Wednesday. The commission is mulling an appeal to the Supreme
> > Court.
> >
> > If upheld, the circuit's decision would likely subject cable operators
> > to the same rules as local phone companies, who are forced to lease
> > their lines to rival providers of phone service and DSL Internet
> > access.
> >
> > The FCC voted in March 2002 to exempt cable companies from laws that
> > force phone companies to open their lines to competition.
> >
> > At the time, officials said the move was necessary to spur more
> > investment in high-speed Internet services by cable companies, who
> > have spent billions of dollars upgrading their networks.
> >
> > Phone companies have complained that the FCC ruling left them at a
> > disadvantage. They also have spent billions on network equipment to
> > deliver DSL service.
> >
> > "I am disappointed that the court declined to address the merits of
> > the commission's policy that was carefully developed over the past
> > several years," Chairman Michael Powell said in a statement Thursday.
> >
> > A Powell spokesman said the chairman was mulling whether to appeal to
> > the Supreme Court.
> >
> > Another commissioner, however, applauded the San Francisco-based
> > court's decision to stand by its earlier ruling.
> >
> > "This is a good day for consumers and Internet entrepreneurs,"
> > Commissioner Michael Copps said in a statement. "I look forward to the
> > start of a fresh dialogue on broadband service at the FCC."
> >
> > The legal challenge to the FCC's decision was brought by Internet
> > service providers and consumer groups unhappy with the commission's
> > decision.
> >
> > Andrew Jay Schwartzman, president of the Media Access Project that
> > represented consumer groups in the challenge, said the FCC should not
> > appeal to the high court and instead "implement cable open access as
> > fast as it can."
> >
> > National Cable & Telecommunications Association chief counsel Dan
> > Brenner said the industry trade group would urge the commission to
> > appeal.
> >
> > "We believe that if and when the 9th Circuit's decision is given a
> > full substantive review by the Supreme Court, it will be reversed," he
> > said in a statement.
> > =====------------- end
>
>
>

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