Re: Finally! The cable monopoly might fall (OT for a couple of newsgroups)

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From: johnf (john_f_at_bigREMOVEpond.net.au)
Date: 04/03/04 

Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:54:49 +1000

"With cable, I am getting approximately 3000 Kbps download speed "

"And DSL ADSL - regular home use), even if it were available to me, is
> realistically like approx 8 times dial up speed, or 400 Kbps " ????

Methinks your figures are 'slightly' optimistic. 

--
johnf
> This is about high speed Internet via cable.
>
> I asked a few weeks ago if there was anything I could do because I
> have satellite TV, and when Internet cable became available, I jumped
> in.  I complained that Comcast Cable was charging me 25% more than if
> I had cable TV.  I thought this was completely unfair and gave an
> unfair advantage to Comcast.   People who want high speed Internet
> access will stick with them even though they're TV service kind of
> sucks when stacked up to what satellite dollar for dollar.
>
> It is not as if high speed Internet is available to me.
>
> Satellite Internet is kind of a joke - as I understand it, and this is
> not to be taken as gospel as I could be wrong,  it is only 5 times the
> download speed of dial up.  So 250Kbps.  And even worse they want like
> $600 down & the $60 a month access fee.  Satellite should only be
> considered if you have no cable or DSL available, and it isn't going
> to get there soon either.
>
> And DSL ADSL - regular home use), even if it were available to me, is
> realistically like approx 8  times dial up speed, or 400 Kbps - I
> think.  Or faster, if you pay the extra for the faster service - and I
> don't know what speeds the faster DSL service tops out at - if it is
> even comparable to cable (I don't think so)
>
> With cable, I am getting approximately 3000 Kbps download speed  -
> only about 250 Kbps upload speed however, but an acceptable tradeoff
> to get the faster download speed.
>
> So really,  there is no comparing.  Cable TV's lines are akin to what
> phone lines went through - they were declared an unfair monopoly, and
> the owners had to open them up to completion.  So what if they
> invested their $$ in the 1st place.  Tough beans.  Tough beans to
> everyone - tough beans to Microsoft even though they spent their own
> money and became the standard and have to open up their operating
> system now.
>
> Anyway - here is something I just spied in the tech news today.  If
> this does end up happening, Comcast cannot screw me anymore out of the
> extra 25%, or $15 a month, because I am damn sure we'll see some
> prices drop, at least a bit.
> ============---------------------=============
> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal appeals court is standing by its
> October ruling that cable TV operators should open their lines to
> rivals who also want to use them to sell high-speed Internet service.
>
> The Federal Communications Commission asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court
> of Appeals to revisit the decision, but the court declined to do so
> late Wednesday. The commission is mulling an appeal to the Supreme
> Court.
>
> If upheld, the circuit's decision would likely subject cable operators
> to the same rules as local phone companies, who are forced to lease
> their lines to rival providers of phone service and DSL Internet
> access.
>
> The FCC voted in March 2002 to exempt cable companies from laws that
> force phone companies to open their lines to competition.
>
> At the time, officials said the move was necessary to spur more
> investment in high-speed Internet services by cable companies, who
> have spent billions of dollars upgrading their networks.
>
> Phone companies have complained that the FCC ruling left them at a
> disadvantage. They also have spent billions on network equipment to
> deliver DSL service.
>
> "I am disappointed that the court declined to address the merits of
> the commission's policy that was carefully developed over the past
> several years," Chairman Michael Powell said in a statement Thursday.
>
> A Powell spokesman said the chairman was mulling whether to appeal to
> the Supreme Court.
>
> Another commissioner, however, applauded the San Francisco-based
> court's decision to stand by its earlier ruling.
>
> "This is a good day for consumers and Internet entrepreneurs,"
> Commissioner Michael Copps said in a statement. "I look forward to the
> start of a fresh dialogue on broadband service at the FCC."
>
> The legal challenge to the FCC's decision was brought by Internet
> service providers and consumer groups unhappy with the commission's
> decision.
>
> Andrew Jay Schwartzman, president of the Media Access Project that
> represented consumer groups in the challenge, said the FCC should not
> appeal to the high court and instead "implement cable open access as
> fast as it can."
>
> National Cable & Telecommunications Association chief counsel Dan
> Brenner said the industry trade group would urge the commission to
> appeal.
>
> "We believe that if and when the 9th Circuit's decision is given a
> full substantive review by the Supreme Court, it will be reversed," he
> said in a statement.
> =====-------------  end

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