Re: XP General question - wrong ng though?
From: Pop Rivet (r91658_at_usadatanet.net)
Date: 03/11/04
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:47:44 -0500
"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:43:00 -0500, PopRivet wrote:
>
> > Came back from lunch, the HP quit working again!!
> > Epson quit, too!
>
> Do you use standby? If yes, perhaps a recent system change has caused a
> problem between standby and the printers/printer drivers. Even(t) viewer
is
> noting other problems with the Epson driver too. Looks like that is one
> place that needs attention. Checked for updated drivers yet?
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS MVP - Windows XP Shell/User
No, I do not use Standby. I have in the past used Hibernate but at the
moment I don't use any of those: I also have no hd spin-down, no monitor
kill, etc etc.. Only thing running is a text screen saver with a small
letter t on it so I know the computer has blanked the screen and isn't
turned off.
Yes, I downloaded the latest drivers for Epson and HP both. HP was
interesting; they have one driver set for XP and one for the 'rest'.
However, the XP drivers don't seem to be any good - XP refuses to use them.
Still waiting for an answer from HP.
The 'old' XP drivers however, have been working for several months so
it's not a driver issue unless it's corruption, AND I've reloaded the
drivers from the CD twice and the HP CD once - and XP refused to install the
HP's.
I had visions of making a boat anchor out of the whole system for a few
minutes this am, but then senility took over so I'm still looking for
solutions ;-[. As I mentioned, I've used the R console once and the XP CD's
"upgrade" (doesn't destroy data, just recopies files) and nothing changed.
AIDA32 exposes no problems, nor do any diagnostics or Maintenance logs
show anything useful. When I click the Report at the End Program and get
the MS link to go to, all I get is one of those -yeah, we know about the
problem and are working on it- stupid responses.
I do seem to have the Epson printer working, as long as I have it connected
and turned on before the computer starts. Otherwise I get the Epson driver
didn't load message and the epxld02 error in Sys View log.
I suspect now I have a bigger problem and that all this is really just
chasing a symptom, not the source. The LAN new connection wizard now
consistantly fails and cannot complete. The Report dialog for the error
only gets me another of those MS "working on it" messages at the MS link it
provides.
I now-think- the problem is likely more major :
-- Booting takes between 4 and 5 minutes. What happens during boot changes
around, but the complete boot is well in excess of 4 minutes and consistant,
whether the Epson is on or off and I get the Epson error message. Sys View
only shows errors for the Epson if it isn't turned on, AND two warnings, one
about the LAN assigning what looks like the right IP to me, and another that
it failed something, I forget what right now.
-- The boot time delay is always AFTER the POST. The delay starts after
the Welcom screen appears. I -think- the delay starts with the painting of
the Welcome screen. If I just let the screen sit there, the disk goes
clunking away and if after several minutes I sign on, the wait is a little
shorter, by maybe about half.
The screen may or may not paint with icons or sit there dark, and
sometimes touching anything causes disk activity to increase.
When the icons paint first, it appearsto be working, and the system tray
is mostly populated, but nothing can be done w/r to starting any programs.
At this particular time, the task bar will not pop up for about three more
minutes. Sometimes ti's there right away. Doesn't matter though 'cause the
machine won't take any human input until it finishes its 4+ minutes of work.
This long delay started within the last few days: It was long before,
but nowhere near this long. In the pre-problem past, a normal boot time,
everything turned on and loaded, took a little over 60 seconds from a cold
boot, less from a Restart command.
Once it's booted, all the software seems to work fine. Peripherals
though are a different matter - haven 't tried them all yet; afraid to now!
:-)
I'm beginning to think a backup/fdisk/format/reload is in order. I'm the
kind of guy loves to know "why", but I'm getting way behind without the
computer working right, and I've already been thru reactivation once, so
what's one more time?
What do you think? I'm not afraid to do a clean install - the time will be
wellspent compared to waiting for this tentative boat anchor to get rebooted
every time!!
TIA
Pop
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