Re: Help I broke my friends PC
From: Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\) (user_at_#notme.com)
Date: 02/12/04
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:04:17 -0800
You're welcome, sorry I wasn't more help, good luck.
-- Michael Solomon MS-MVP Windows Shell/User Backup is a PC User's Best Friend DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/ <gv> wrote in message news:OmYpWmZ8DHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Thanks for your time, I do appreciate it. Unfortunatley I wasn't able to > go > into the repair section, it kept kicking me out to dos. > So I took the machine back to my place and put the hard drive in my box > and > backed up the files, and start with new partitions. > Thanks again. > > > "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in > message news:%23xPjL2N8DHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> First, perform a repair install as follows. If after the repair install > you >> are unable to access the files, something you will need to do from within >> Windows, you will need to take ownership of the files with the > instructions >> following the repair install instructions below: >> >> Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an >> actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP >> CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the >> system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to > enter >> the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually >> has >> instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you >> see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if >> the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence. > Save >> your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will > reboot. >> >> NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if >> something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to >> start >> over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed >> up, >> you would lose your data should that eventuality occur. >> >> Boot from the CD. If your system is set to be able to boot from the CD, > it >> should detect the disk and give a brief message, during the boot up, if > you >> wish to boot from the CD press any key. >> >> Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a >> reference >> asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you >> wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let >> setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers. >> >> Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a >> screen >> with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation >> using the Recovery console. >> >> The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you >> to >> press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. > Setup >> will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your >> version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or >> install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there >> on, follow the screens. >> >> File Ownership: >> >> This sounds like a file ownership issue related to NTFS. Note, file >> ownership and permissions supersede administrator rights. How you >> resolve >> it depends upon which version of XP you are running. >> >> >> >> XP-Home >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard wired for "Simple > File >> Sharing" at system level. >> >> However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode. Reboot, and start >> hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the >> options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for the > administrator's >> password. This is not your administrator account, rather it is the >> machine's administrator account for which users are asked to create a >> password during setup. >> >> If you created no such password, when requested, leave blank and press >> enter. >> >> Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the view tab, scroll to >> the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File Sharing" deselect > it >> and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let you make a > change, >> move on to the next step. >> >> Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go to the Security >> tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the user that was > logged >> on when you were refused permission to access the files. Click apply and >> ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and type in the name > of >> the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership for everything >> in >> the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the following selection: >> "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it as well. >> >> Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish with these files > when >> you log back on as that user. >> >> >> >> XP-Pro >> >> >> >> If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited account to >> administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to Tools, select >> Folder >> Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File Sharing" is not >> selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok. >> >> >> >> If you wish everything in a specific folder to be accessible to a user, >> right click the folder, select properties, go to the Security tab, click >> Advanced, go to the Owner tab, >> select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of the box, you >> should see a check box for "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," >> place a check in the box and click apply and ok. >> >> The user should now be able to perform necessary functions on files in >> the >> folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an admin account >> again, >> right click the folder, select Properties, go to the Security tab and be >> sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click add and type the >> user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has all the necessary >> permissions checked in the permission list below the user list, click > apply >> and ok. >> >> That should do it and allow whatever access you desire for that folder > even >> in a limited account. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Solomon MS-MVP >> Windows Shell/User >> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend >> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/ >> >> <gv> wrote in message news:O7kvAON8DHA.2196@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> > The machine had win 98 (the original, not 2nd ed.), then he bought a >> > new >> > mother board and processor only, plugged the same HD and it seemed to >> > work, >> > kind of. Basically there were so many intermittent errors, like you > could >> > not make a new folder in the save as dialog box, and other weird > annoying >> > stuff like that. At some point someone else ran partition magic and > split >> > his c drive into a c and d drive (c=15 gig, d=5 gig, why that config, I >> > don't know) >> > So I come along and convince him buy win xp home upgrade, which he did. >> > So >> > here is what happened. >> > I ran the setup from within win 98. It loaded the set up files and >> > rebooted. Since it was win 98 both the c & d drive were fat32. >> > When the dos looking setup screen started after boot up, it only asked > me >> > if >> > I wanted to quick format the D drive only, in either fat32 or ntfs, or >> > complete format in fat32 or ntfs or leave it alone (5 options). Well > the >> > D >> > drive is where I stored all their data like their kids pictures, so of >> > course I said leave it alone, but it never asked me the same options >> > for >> > the >> > c drive. So after I said leave it alone, it proceeded to load the OS >> > on >> > the >> > d drive, never letting me stop or select a folder to store windows in. > I >> > expected the choice of over writing c:\windows or selecting another >> > folder, >> > but no choices after I said leave it alone. So to make a long story a >> > little shorter, it loaded perfectly on the d drive and after reboot, >> > the >> > boot.ini rightfully gave me the option to boot into xp home or > "Microsoft >> > Windows" (funny how it doesn't refer to Win98). >> > Now silly me decided to edit the boot ini file and delete many of the > old >> > files that I THOUGHT were only needed for win98 (like autoexec.bat, >> > ...) >> > So I ended deleting too many files off of the c root and now when I >> > reboot it says NTLR or something like that is missing. >> > So I was able to boot from the cd and try to repair, but each time it > asks >> > for the administrator password (which I never set one, and I only added >> > mom >> > and dad as users, not admin), I hit enter and it just brings me to the > dos >> > prompt (d:\windows). Every folder I try to change to says access > denied. >> > Is there a way to load any files back on the c drive and if so which > files >> > do I need. Or can I get into the recycle bin and copy the files back >> > on >> > the >> > c drive? Right now it says access is denied. My friend and his wife >> > don't >> > care about >> > the fact its backwards (windows and programs on d and personal data on > c, >> > there is 15 gig on c and 5 gig on d, so it can work backwards). >> > Thanks for any help and sorry for the long story. >> > gv >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >
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