Re: 'Old Files' shown in disk cleanup area
From: Andrew Lomakin [MCP - WinXP] (spam_at_belam.lv)
Date: 02/11/04
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:12:40 +0200
yeah, i do use IM, but i won't give the address in the newsgroup. if you
post ur email, i'll contact you ;)
if you need extra help in any MS issues - post them up here ;)
"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:d91301c3f037$56e128d0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Andrew,
> I see nothing wrong at all with your english, yours is
> probably better than mine..Ha Ha I know what you are
> reffering to in your last post, as I remember..it's
> something to do with exporting that value ( volume
> cache ) in the registry. That way, the compress 'old
> files' doesn't show up anymore. I got a lot done today..I
> now have a set of windows xp sp1 boot disks on floppies
> (6). I'm trying to learn how to write an ISO image. I'd
> like take the information on the floppies and make a
> bootable cd . I think before all this is over..I'll
> format my hard drive completely, making it blank and
> start from scratch. I wish that I had a 'real' windows xp
> home edition sp1 cd, instead of the set of recovery cd's
> that I have. I guess that's what happens when you buy a
> new computer with an os pre-installed. By the way..all of
> my problems started when I tried to install a different
> boot screen besides the original windows xp one. I
> probably messed something up in the boot.ini area. I got
> the different boot screen to load a couple of times, then
> it stopped, and I saw flashes of what I call the blue
> screen of death flash. That's when I just stuck in my
> recovery cd's and re-loaded my software. I'm also trying
> to figure out hout to use the bartpe software, it looks
> interesting. You really don't know how thankful for the
> help I get in here. If I was as smart as you and kelly
> p., I'd be helping a lot of people in here. Actually,
> I've seen several questions that I could answer, but
> didn't know if I should. Do you ever use any of the
> instant messenger services, if so we could chat online
> sometime. Well, I've probably bored you to death by
> now..so I guess I'll send this..Thanks again..
> David W...Florida-U.S.A.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >naah.
> >compress old files means exactly the following:
> >NTFS file system has an inbuilt feature that it can
> store files on disk in
> >the compressed state, and decompress them on the fly,
> invisibly to the user.
> >No doubt this operation utilizes some CPU power, thus
> decreasing system
> >performance.
> >By saying `old files` windows referrs to those files
> (perhaps even system
> >files) that haven't been used for a long time. Deleting
> these files is not a
> >solution - they might be needed for system in the
> future, so cleanup wizard
> >just offers you to compress them. Usually this is not a
> good way to do
> >For best system performance you should untick `compress
> old files`.
> >For max free space check this option.
> >If you experience problems running cleanup wizard with
> `compress old files`
> >checked, read.
> >www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> >Line 48, Right column, Disk Cleanup - Compress Old Files
> Freezes.
> >
> >
> >Sorry for my english :(
> >
> >
> >"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:d83401c3ef39$608eee20$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Andrew,
> >> So would I be better off to just compress the 'old
> >> files' ? I could always export the branch where they
> are
> >> shown in disk cleanup, so they wouldn't show anymore.
> I'm
> >> just trying to learn as much as I can. Thanks
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >dave...you shouldn't be so paranoic about getting rid
> >> from `old files`.
> >> >These aren't the files you think they are.
> >> >Let them be ;)
> >> >
> >> >"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:d56201c3ef0f$11101380$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Doug,
> >> >> I'll try and make this my last question on this
> topic,
> >> >> you say if I do a complete format that all of
> the 'old
> >> >> files' would be gone. I'm thinking that's what I
> should
> >> >> have done to start with. Really..start FRESH and NEW
> >> all
> >> >> over again. As my computer came pre-loaded with the
> os
> >> >> already installed, and all I have available to me
> are
> >> the
> >> >> recovery disks, can I still safely do a complete
> format
> >> >> and safely use my 2 recovery disks ? If that's
> >> possible,
> >> >> PLEASE explain the truly correct way to properly,
> and
> >> >> COMPLETELY format my hard drive , so it will be
> free of
> >> >> all 'old files'. I think I remember that I have to
> go
> >> to
> >> >> a command prompt and tell it correctly what to do.
> I've
> >> >> seen here on the microsoft download site that I can
> >> >> obtain the boot disks for windows xp home edition
> sp1.
> >> >> And I do have a cd-writer installed on my system.
> >> Thanks
> >> >> again SO much for your patience and valuable time.
> >> >> David W.
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >If you do a complete format and reinstall, these
> files
> >> >> would be gone, wiped out. If you do an over the top
> >> >> install, they would be overwritten.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> >> >> >Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> >> >http://www.dougknox.com
> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and
> XP
> >> Pro
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may
> benefit.
> >> >> >Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote in
> >> >> message news:d19a01c3eebe$08eea3c0
> $a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Doug,
> >> >> >> That answer makes some sense, I just can't
> >> understand
> >> >> why
> >> >> >> the system has to 'hang on' to the old files. Why
> >> >> would
> >> >> >> it need any, after re-loading the operating
> system.
> >> I
> >> >> >> guess that's why you are a MS-MVP. Thanks..Have a
> >> >> great
> >> >> >> week !
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >If you compress the old files, they're simply
> >> >> compressed
> >> >> >> using the NTFS file systems built-in compression.
> >> >> This
> >> >> >> can result in a bit slower computer, if you do
> need
> >> to
> >> >> >> access the files at a later date, as they have
> to be
> >> >> >> uncompressed. It is generally pretty
> transparent
> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> user. However, there may be some operating
> system
> >> >> files
> >> >> >> that cannot be accessed in a compressed state,
> >> >> >> particularly at boot up.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >If you really need to free up disk space, then
> this
> >> >> can
> >> >> >> be a viable option.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,103781,pg,4,00
> >> >> >> .asp
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart
> Display
> >> >> >> >Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> >> >> >http://www.dougknox.com
> >> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >> >Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home
> and
> >> XP
> >> >> Pro
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >> >Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may
> >> benefit.
> >> >> >> >Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote
> >> >> in
> >> >> >> message news:d13401c3ee98$64a3c540
> >> $a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> Doug,
> >> >> >> >> So I don't need to format my hard drive, so
> >> should
> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> compress the 'old files'that are talked about
> in
> >> >> disk
> >> >> >> >> cleanup ? Right now it shows a pretty large
> >> sizable
> >> >> >> >> amount of space that I could gain. I had
> >> mentioned
> >> >> in
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> last post about if one does compress the old
> >> files
> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> disk cleanup, where are they stored ? Windows
> >> does
> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> room for improvement.Thanks..
> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >No. You do not need to format. There are a
> >> >> number
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> files that may never be accessed, or modified,
> >> with
> >> >> >> any
> >> >> >> >> operating system installation. You're best
> to
> >> >> just
> >> >> >> >> leave them alone!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >> >Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart
> >> Display
> >> >> >> >> >Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> >> >> >> >http://www.dougknox.com
> >> >> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP
> Home
> >> and
> >> >> XP
> >> >> >> Pro
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> >> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may
> >> >> benefit.
> >> >> >> >> >Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> message news:ce7101c3ee5f$45e33d90
> >> >> $a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> >> Doug,
> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for trying to answer my question.
> I'm
> >> >> >> thinking
> >> >> >> >> >> that when I had to restore my os, that
> >> the 'old
> >> >> >> files'
> >> >> >> >> >> that are being shown in the disk cleanup
> area
> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> >> leftover files from the original
> installation
> >> of
> >> >> >> >> windows.
> >> >> >> >> >> Should I format my hard drive completely, (
> >> with
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> >> >> 0's ) and start over ? Would that eliminate
> >> all
> >> >> old
> >> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> >> >> being shown ? By the way..if I were to
> decide
> >> to
> >> >> >> >> compress
> >> >> >> >> >> the old files, where would they be stored
> on
> >> my
> >> >> >> >> system ?
> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your time and advice.
> >> >> >> >> >> David W.
> >> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >Old files are ones that have not been
> >> accessed
> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> >> modified in quite some time. Compressing
> >> these
> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> >> >> could result in certain applications, or
> even
> >> >> >> portions
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> >> the operating system to not work. Its
> best to
> >> >> >> leave
> >> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> >> option unchecked. You can also remove the
> >> option
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> >> >> Disk Cleanup completely. See www.kellys-
> >> korner-
> >> >> >> >> >> xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm, Line 48, Right
> column,
> >> >> Disk
> >> >> >> >> >> Cleanup - Compress Old Files Freezes.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >See the instructions at the top of the
> page
> >> for
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> >> of REG files.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >> >> >Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows
> Smart
> >> >> Display
> >> >> >> >> >> >Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> >> >> >> >> >http://www.dougknox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP
> >> Home
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> XP
> >> >> >> >> Pro
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> >> >> >> >> >--------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >Please reply only to the newsgroup so all
> may
> >> >> >> benefit.
> >> >> >> >> >> >Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >"David"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message news:bec801c3edc0$112dbde0
> >> >> >> $a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello..
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Last night I had to re-install windows
> xp
> >> >> home
> >> >> >> >> >> >> edition..drat..drat..I guess I messed
> up my
> >> >> >> >> computer
> >> >> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I tried installing a different boot
> screen.
> >> >> My
> >> >> >> >> problem
> >> >> >> >> >> >> now is related to what's being talked
> about
> >> >> in
> >> >> >> here
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the disk clean up area. It's concerning
> the
> >> >> >> amount
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> additional space that I could gain by "
> >> >> >> compressing
> >> >> >> >> >> old
> >> >> >> >> >> >> files " I don't know what old files are
> >> being
> >> >> >> >> referred
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> there. I thought when I re-installed the
> >> >> >> operating
> >> >> >> >> >> >> system, that everything was wiped out
> and I
> >> >> >> started
> >> >> >> >> >> fresh
> >> >> >> >> >> >> all over again. Of course that's where
> the
> >> >> >> problem
> >> >> >> >> >> might
> >> >> >> >> >> >> occur, the operating came pre-installed
> on
> >> my
> >> >> >> >> >> computer,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> so all I have are the supplied 'recovery
> >> >> disks'
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> >> >> >> shipped with it. It lets me restore my
> >> system
> >> >> >> back
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> starting state at least. I know when I
> use
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> disks,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> that it use the ghost software by
> symantec
> >> to
> >> >> re-
> >> >> >> >> >> install.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm thinkinking if possible that
> a 'real'
> >> >> >> >> formatting
> >> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the hard drive might be better. I do
> get a
> >> >> >> warning
> >> >> >> >> >> when I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> use the recvery disks that
> >> says 'WARNING..All
> >> >> >> data
> >> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> be lost, do I want to continue. Is
> there
> >> any
> >> >> >> way
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> actually delete the 'old files' without
> >> >> having
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> compress them..why would I need to save
> >> >> them ?
> >> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
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