Re: 64-bit os

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From: Jason (Jason_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 11/06/04 

Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:19:03 -0800

No No No!! The sole fact that "Microsoft operating Systems come with a full
compliment of drivers for the most commonly used hardware" leads you to know
that they do this because they should not because that or great friendly free
giving INN. Over $65 billion Dollars tells us that. how would buy an OS that
you could not use a Network, not use the internet, not use a floppy or CD-Rom
not use a DVD or CDRW, Not Print, Fax or save on removable media (know body I
know)and not me. That is why MS should make an OS that works with the working
Hardware Drivers and not make Hardware CO. make new drive that work with an
OS!!

"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> First, all Microsoft operating Systems come with a full compliment of
> drivers for the most commonly used hardware. Those drivers, while often
> developed in cooperation with Microsoft are supplied for the operating
> system by the device manufacturer. Every attempt is made during the
> development and the beta testing period to make the operating system as
> compatible as possible with the widest possible variations of hardware and
> it should be noted, that many such systems not only have different hardware,
> some of which may be non-standard but also have a wide range of software
> that might interfere with the function of various devices and cause problems
> for their drivers.
>
> Second, XP, for example, does offer a wide range of options but often,
> hardware to take advantage of those options are only in development or have
> not yet reached market at the time operating system goes to market.
>
> Third, it would be wholly impossible for Microsoft to continue to develop,
> supply and otherwise write drivers for all hardware that comes out or is
> updated with new versions throughout the life of the operating system.
> Also, many devices take advantage of the system to perform various functions
> well beyond the basic function as envisioned when the OS released. Many
> scanners, for example, have function buttons to allow users single button
> access to various functions. The system, usually can handle the scanning
> function from within but it's up to the manufacturer to supply the drivers
> that enable the single button functionality.
>
> Fourth, the OP was talking specifically about Windows 64-bit and the
> specific question in his post was when will Microsoft come out with a
> computer that fully supports 64-bit will all necessary drivers. Aside from
> the incorrect assumption that Microsoft manufactures or otherwise designs
> computers, with regard to 64-bit, very few manufacturers have 64-bit
> compatible devices yet available to the public. That was even more the case
> throughout most of the XP-64-bit development period wherein the OS was
> created in what was largely a vacuum with regard to 64-bit devices because,
> beyond the processor, there were none or very few such devices. Hence, the
> OS was largely developed with compatibility with the processor and 64-bit
> compatible applications in mind because most of the other hardware didn't
> exist. That's one of the reasons why user options with regard to hardware
> for the 64-bit OS are rather narrow.
>
> Again, if for no other reason and I've cited many other reasons, given the
> fact there were so few devices available for even testing purposes for the
> 64-bit OS be it the Opteron or the Intel 64-bit processor, what you suggest
> was and is impossible and also further points up the reason why device
> drivers are the responsibility of the device manufacturer not Microsoft.
> Microsoft make DDKs, Driver Development Kits available to the developers and
> fully supports developers and manufacturers in their efforts to develop and
> create devices and the appropriate drivers for their OSs as that is its
> responsibility if it wishes to maintain widespread compatibility as well as
> acceptance from the consumer. But beyond that, while Microsoft offers an OS
> that creates an environment in which those devices can function, the
> responsibility to develop, create and supply the drivers falls to the device
> manufacturer.
>
> You might be interested to know that even the drivers that come through
> Windows Update are supplied by the device manufacturer and are only offered
> through WU because they've gone through Microsoft's testing and
> certification. Further, even at Windows Update, there is usually a
> notification that the drivers being supplied are for basic device functions
> and taking advantage of broader functions beyond that basic functionality
> will often require getting drivers directly from the manufacturer.
>
>
> --
> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> "Jason" <Jason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D94ABC27-4DFE-4E09-A946-4EFE36236E80@microsoft.com...
> >I disagree, If I pay for Win OS then it is in part "if not hole" MS
> > responsibility to offer an OS the can work with devices that are NEEDED to
> > do
> > what MS claims it can do!!
> >
> > "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> I would just point out, device drivers, including those for 64-bit
> >> systems
> >> are the responsibility of the device manufacturers.
> >>
> >> Also, there's an implication in your post that Microsoft manufactures
> >> computers, it is not in that business. You need to check with the
> >> manufacturers for computers, devices and drivers that are 64-bit
> >> compatible.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >>
> >> "Jason" <Jason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B4753911-7937-4843-9F11-335AAB2D4094@microsoft.com...
> >> > has MS came out will a good full PC for a 64-bit chip?
> >> > Like
> >> > Intel has advantages as a company, and Itanium has some good,
> >> > demonstrated
> >> > performance benefits. But the Opteron's compatibility with 32-bit
> >> > Windows
> >> > binaries at full speed rather than having to recompile new versions of
> >> > all
> >> > your applications is attractive,
> >> >
> >> > There's still the issue of making today's PC hardware 64-bit ready.
> >> > "The
> >> > biggest challenge is going to be the device drivers in 64-bit mode,"
> >> > You
> >> > need
> >> > all new drivers for all of your key components [graphics cards, hard
> >> > drives,
> >> > and the like]--all the stuff that the operating system needs to work
> >> > well.
> >> > If
> >> > you want 64 bits because you want performance, you can't have a bunch
> >> > of
> >> > 32-bit drivers mucking things up.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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